HRT 2091 Clipper review

This post has been removed because of the controversial ethics involved in the making of this blade.

Edited by mog1111 - 01/13/2017 at 6:45pm

Ridiculous and shameless cloning amounts to theft of intellectual property by HRT. I mean seriously, you don't see anything wrong with this? I guess since you are not Stiga it is ok?

Tried that 2 years ago but with a lighter hrt clipper. Seems slower and feels softer than the regular clipper. It costs half less though.

TNHA is the ebay shop where I bought it. I think they are eaching.net.

The comparison of illegal services and cloned blades is quite laughable. Is the stiga clipper patented? "Intellectual property of a 7 ply blade?" Hilarious if satire, ridiculous if serious.

Mog1111,

I am going to try to explain my viewpoint since you seem receptive to listening. 

As far as the ethics of Stiga's pricing, how many blades do you think they sell?  How many people do they employ?  Do those people deserve a working wage? Would you prefer that they hire people in Europe, or would you be ok if they just offloaded the whole operation to China?  Also, at some point they had to put some effort into developing that blade?  Remember, the costs of production are more than just the wood and the machining.

Let's say it was your company making -- whatever.  And some company in China just cloned it after you put your effort into developing it, plus had to pay your employees in the UK to produce it?

I say, just buy a Stiga Clipper. 

Anticipating some additional discussion on this, it becomes a fine line as to when a clone crosses a line.  Stiga certainly doesn't own the idea of  7-py wood blades, even ones with red wood layers.  Yinhe makes a lot of blades that are similar to other makers.  But the handles have subtly different shapes, they give them different names, etc.  They are not identical.  Doubleday, once an OEM for Btfly, also makes a lot of blades that have a lot of the properties of, say, a TB-ALC blade.  But they are not absolutely identical, although some of the design motifs hint at what they are doing.  They also have a few designs that are entirely their own.

HRT has crossed the line, and they do it for nearly every blade they make.  They have clearly targeted Stiga, for the Chinese market, where Stiga has no legal recourse.   (Copying of almost anything seems ok there).

Yes all valid points. It's difficult to argue with them! Now I feel really guilty like I should not use the HRT anymore.
And as someone who is severely underpaid for the skillset I have, I know where you are coming from!

As I said if I was convinced by 7ply I would most likely by a Force Pro anyway as I like Tibhar stuff generally.

I'm still flitting between that and my Andro ligna.

Baal wrote: mog, thanks for seeing the points. Actually, since you like the Clipper, you could just get one of those.  From Stiga!  One of the classic blades of all time, although a lot of people say the old ones are better.

Matt Pimple wrote: rocketman222 wrote: Speaking of getting a clipper, its a much better bet to get a P700 or BT777 from Avalox, as the current Avalox blades are made using the same Stiga tech that was used in the 80s, this is the information i got from my friend Diego of Westside TTC who is the north american dealer for avalox. Of course, the Avalox dealer has a vested interest in that.

Give them to some kids?

Baal wrote: mog, thanks for seeing the points. Actually, since you like the Clipper, you could just get one of those.  From Stiga!  One of the classic blades of all time, although a lot of people say the old ones are better.

I prefer Tibhar. I think a Samsonov Force Pro original would probably be better for me.

The original Samsonov Force Pro is really OFF-. A personal favorite. But not a Clipper.

It is still possible I will go back to TSPW, that depends on whether my fh will be satisfactory when I try my new Sanwei Target National which seems very nippy for a Chinese tacky rubber.

Are you kidding me!