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    Posted: 02/05/2017 at 10:47am
What happened after the match and Gauzy got carzy after shibaev gave his hand (for handshake supposed)?
Did Gauzy was really mad from the previous point that didn't go to him?
Did anything else happen and I didnt get it?
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They had issues before. I think that's not a big deal, just personal problems.
Both show have other attitude but there more important things in table tennis
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So you mean they have "history"? Has something else happened before?
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Shibaev is a nutjob but I have felt for a long time he has the best forehand in Europe.  That match did not do anything to change my mind.
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Yes, they also had issues at the European Championship 2016
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I like it. Players showing their true feelings and not being the pussy politically correct.
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That was awesome, I was hoping they would fight
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hahaha it was so intence, I thought that they would fight for real, but the master umpire was there to clam down the situation.
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If someone as skinny like Shibaev chest bumped me like that, I would have thrown a left hook to his liver and broke his body in half.  
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Shibaev is a nutjob but I have felt for a long time he has the best forehand in Europe.  That match did not do anything to change my mind.


Correction: Shibaev used to be a "nutjob". He was roundly criticized for his temper at MyTT and at various Russian forums as well. Then he grew up a little, got married -- and for the last 2-3 years he actually behaves himself unusually mature (compared to his previous behavior, that is).

As for the crisis at Top-16 I think the main immediate factor was that Simon got really pissed the umpire didn't give him the point at 9-9. I hope that later when he watches the video of that moment - where it is absolutely clear that the ball hit the bottom of the net frame on its way down, not the table - he would feel a bit embarrassed and maybe even decides to apologize. Or not...
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Oh really JimT??? HAs Shibaev temper problems? I really didn't know that!
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But you all have to agreee with me that it was and adventurus event...
1) the arguement between Gauzy and Shibaev
2) Solja got injured (if this is true, idk what to believe, she must have also done this only cause she was out of good performance)
3) Ovtcharov was so ill....maybe flu... He was caughing all the time, I really was sad for him, but at the end he got really happy. (once again this guy had ball issues Ouch pffff)
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Originally posted by BeaverMD BeaverMD wrote:

If someone as skinny like Shibaev chest bumped me like that, I would have thrown a left hook to his liver and broke his body in half.  

Watch again, seems like Gauzy initiated that. In any event, I'm taking the 6'4 russian well trained athlete with arm acceleration over BeaverMD from mytabletennis unless there's some piece of information I'm missing here.

As to the actual incident, I get the impression that Shibaev tried to apologize but Gauzy was having none of it. I don't see Shibaev's celebration and failed handshake as much worse than Gauzy's celebration last time they met:




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Shaking hands after a match is a stupid idea anyways.   Players should shake hands before the match and wish each other good luck.  That's it.  That's what the standard etiquette should be.  When you have players trying to shake hands after a match (especially in a major tournament), many times the winner is involved in some sort of stupid celebration, which just antagonizes the loser and we end up with confrontations like this.

In baseball, teams don't shake hands with the opposing team after the game.  They shake hands with their OWN team.  I like that.

Wish each other good luck, go out on the field and lay it all on the line, and then get the hell away from each other.


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Originally posted by TT newbie TT newbie wrote:

I like it. Players showing their true feelings and not being the pussy politically correct.

I happen to be a TT oldbie and always viewed my tt mission as to defeat my opponent, not push him after a match is over.  

If pushing your opponent after a match is "not being the pussy politically correct" (I have no idea what you mean by this) why not play tt in an enclosed steel cage and may the baddest ass rather than the better player on a given day prevail?  

That, in America at least, might make today's tt more popular, if decorum were thrown to the winds and boorishly obnoxious behavior were to become the norm.  It works for the NFL, NHL and NBA, why not for tt?


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Originally posted by TT newbie TT newbie wrote:

I like it. Players showing their true feelings and not being the pussy politically correct.


If by "pussy politically correct" you mean behaving like an uncivilized barbarian, well ok. It seems to be in fashion now.

Never saw Waldner do it though. 
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Whatever happened, Gauzy acted as a very sore loser. I watched the video few times to see always the same -that Gauzy pushed Shibaev in the chest,something considered extremely rude around here.
On the other hand Shibaev obviously was acting as "over superior". Whatching the lips of Gauzy I am pretty sure I saw him pronouncing M...ther f..ker and F.ck of

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Salty people with serve issue.
This happened before started with serve issue.
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and point 9-9 ...... SG try to fake that the ball was in ?????
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'and point 9-9 ...... SG try to fake that the ball was in ?????'LOL

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Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

Whatever happened, Gauzy acted as a very sore loser. I watched the video few times to see always the same -that Gauzy pushed Shibaev in the chest,something considered extremely rude around here.
On tge otger hand Shibaev obviously was acting as "over superior". Whathing the lips of Gauzy I am pretty sure I saw him pronouncing M...ther f..ker and F.ck of

As I heard and saw he said only "fu.....ng  sh1t" and no other "french". And as I saw again, I think that shibaev hit first his chest to Gauzy. But anyway...
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With all due respect, I see Gauzy pushing the chest of Shibaev, but it's true that the russian approached too closely and rather aggressively
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Originally posted by *_strataras_* *_strataras_* wrote:

Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

Whatever happened, Gauzy acted as a very sore loser. I watched the video few times to see always the same -that Gauzy pushed Shibaev in the chest,something considered extremely rude around here.
On tge otger hand Shibaev obviously was acting as "over superior". Whathing the lips of Gauzy I am pretty sure I saw him pronouncing M...ther f..ker and F.ck of





As I heard and saw he said only "fu.....ng  sh1t" and no other "french". And as I saw again, I think that shibaev hit first his chest to Gauzy. But anyway...


dont understand what happened when shibaev walked and made gauzy pissed
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Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

With all due respect, I see Gauzy pushing the chest of Shibaev, but it's true that the russian approached too closely and rather aggressively

Yes I agree with you...
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bbkon I don't know either friend...I am trying to understand why Gauzy got pissed, there is something that missing us, cause if you hear all people there were shouting against Shibaev.
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Shibaev hide lot of serve. This guy had done it many times.
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I've always wondered why Shibaev hasn't advanced much more in the rankings than where he is now. He has decent technique and he hides his serves well. Close to complete package...


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Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

I've always wondered why Shibaev hasn't advanced much more in the rankings than where he is now. He has decent technique and he hides his serves well. Close to complete package...


I think that some of the things that separate someone who is 40 in the world from someone who is 10 in the world or better can on occasion be surprisingly hard to see for even high level amateur players.  They may not be very big things. 

Back in the day I used to wonder the same thing about Peter Karlsson.  Guy looked perfect to me.  Why wasn't he like Waldner or Persson?  He was a really good player for sure but his results indicated clearly he was not world champion material. 

Sometimes I suspect it is because guys like this are slightly too predictable (relative to the top 10 guys) or maybe they lack one or more overwhelming strange "Super-Powers", which is something all the great players have. 

Bear in mind, not all of the world's great servers now or in the past hide their serves.  In fact, people who hide may not have the same level of disguise as great servers who don't need to.  Disguise is not the same as hiding.   
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Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

I've always wondered why Shibaev hasn't advanced much more in the rankings than where he is now. He has decent technique and he hides his serves well. Close to complete package...


In terms of reaching a higher ranking or getting much better as a player I think he made a slight mistake when he decided to stay at UMMC. Financially he has done well, but if he went to play for some high-level German or French club he could have become a better player. It's always a tough decision to make especially when you are young...
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After the match he says about shibaev "he is an accomplished fool; nobody likes him on the tour and  it's the same every match."

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