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BTY Rozena
Tends to have lower performance than Tenergy series, also lower price. 40-50USD
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Hopefully it offers better performance than Roundell.
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Originally posted by Crowsfeather Crowsfeather wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1227764680653205&set=pcb.1227764737319866&type=3&theater

BTY Rozena
Tends to have lower performance than Tenergy series, also lower price. 40-50USD

Why are you assuming  Rozena will have a lower performance than Tenergy? 
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Originally posted by adishorul adishorul wrote:

Originally posted by Crowsfeather Crowsfeather wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1227764680653205&set=pcb.1227764737319866&type=3&theater

BTY Rozena
Tends to have lower performance than Tenergy series, also lower price. 40-50USD


Why are you assuming  Rozena will have a lower performance than Tenergy? 


guess if the market guys at bty have a brain this rubber must be like baracuda or q mid range rubber
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High performance rubber "Rosena" pursuing tolerance "

"Rosena" using "spring sponge" that surprised the world. Its feature is the height of "tolerance" which combines a newly developed topsheet with "rope sponge" dyed in rose color. Butterfly unique high tension technology demonstrates power, while compensating for subtle racket angle and swing direction error, create a sense of stability in play. When the performance of "Rosena" is drawn out from the former team by Nakazato's play, its performance approaches the legendary rubber.

● "Tolerance" means tolerance and tolerance in English. It expresses features which are easy to cover error of subtle racket angle and swing direction at hitting the ball
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if the pips are small in height and diameter and close to each other, making the sponge much closer and more solidary to the topsheet, then it will be a competitor to Nexy Karis, today's the true new leader re. rubber tolerance.

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Originally posted by jpenmaster jpenmaster wrote:

High performance rubber "Rosena" pursuing tolerance "

"Rosena" using "spring sponge" that surprised the world. Its feature is the height of "tolerance" which combines a newly developed topsheet with "rope sponge" dyed in rose color. Butterfly unique high tension technology demonstrates power, while compensating for subtle racket angle and swing direction error, create a sense of stability in play. When the performance of "Rosena" is drawn out from the former team by Nakazato's play, its performance approaches the legendary rubber.

● "Tolerance" means tolerance and tolerance in English. It expresses features which are easy to cover error of subtle racket angle and swing direction at hitting the ball

Wait a minute here.  If your racket angle at contact is 55 instead of 50 degrees and you want to hit a backhand down the line but because of a swing direction error it goes crosscourt instead Butterfly Rosena, being a highly tolerant rubber, is going to correct your racket angle and swing direction so as to do what you intended to do in the first place?  Wow.  That sure is some legendary tolerance.  Makes me wish I were born in 1992 instead of 1942 and had 100 bucks to blow on this stuff.


Edited by berndt_mann - 03/01/2017 at 5:42pm
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I always hoped Butterfly would make more Spring Sponge rubbers outside TENERGY and Spin Art. 05 is topspin and loop oriented, 64 is good for counterlooping and driving, 25 is good at hitting and smashing, 80 suits balanced offense, and Spin Art is basically a Chinese rubber. I'm interested to see what Butterfly is aiming for with Rozena.
I'd like to see Butterfly start sticking Spring Sponge under a wider variety of topsheets. How about a Spring Sponge short pips rubber, like Challenger SS or Flarestorm SS? Perhaps Spring Sponge wouldn't work as well underneath a long pips or anti topsheet, but I'd be down to try them anyways.
I feel there are many smooth topsheets that Butterfly could combine Spring Sponge with. How about Bryce Speed SS and Sriver SS? Personally, I think an Ekrips SS or Sapphira SS would be perfect rubbers for me. I'd be very interested in trying out rubbers like these.
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Originally posted by adishorul adishorul wrote:

Originally posted by Crowsfeather Crowsfeather wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1227764680653205&set=pcb.1227764737319866&type=3&theater

BTY Rozena
Tends to have lower performance than Tenergy series, also lower price. 40-50USD

Why are you assuming  Rozena will have a lower performance than Tenergy? 

BTY dealer in Thailand tell me that way, it's a controllable T05 with less catapult.
I'm sorry if it's not true in the recent future. The release should be around April - May.


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My rubber is intolerant;
It does just what I do.
And since my technique ain't perfect,
It's sometimes up I screw.

It won't correct an eff-up
Or even a minor miscue.
Which means I'll lose to people
Whose rubbers can and do.

I probably should buy Rozena
But I can't afford the price.
But playing with a rubber so tolerant,
That really would be nice.

So I guess I'll stick with Leyland
Which doesn't give much help,
And watch my game go down the drain
While I piss and moan and yelp.

At least I can play hardbat
If not too tolerantly
Where nobody plays Rozena
In Tucson, no sireee!
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Originally posted by Crowsfeather Crowsfeather wrote:

Originally posted by adishorul adishorul wrote:

Originally posted by Crowsfeather Crowsfeather wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1227764680653205&set=pcb.1227764737319866&type=3&theater

BTY Rozena
Tends to have lower performance than Tenergy series, also lower price. 40-50USD


Why are you assuming  Rozena will have a lower performance than Tenergy? 


BTY dealer in Thailand tell me that way, it's a controllable T05 with less catapult.
I'm sorry if it's not true in the recent future. The release should be around April - May.




The release will be on 21st of April, as far as I know rozena will be a rubber on its own, except spring sponge and high tension the top-sheet will be completely different vs tenergy not worse just different. The target will be players who don't like tenergy but like butterfly so rozena will compete with medium medium hard esn rubbers.
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Going by the numbers, Rozena is somewhere between Tenergy and Roundell. I'm not sure if one can even it filling a niche.

Butterfly claims it is a "high tolerance" rubber, that affords the user some wiggle room for blade angle and swing path, which in turn offers the user a sense of stability. Designed for close-table and mid-distance play.



Edited by zeio - 03/02/2017 at 10:41am
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Originally posted by berndt_mann berndt_mann wrote:

My rubber is intolerant;
It does just what I do.
And since my technique ain't perfect,
It's sometimes up I screw.

It won't correct an eff-up
Or even a minor miscue.
Which means I'll lose to people
Whose rubbers can and do.

I probably should buy Rozena
But I can't afford the price.
But playing with a rubber so tolerant,
That really would be nice.

So I guess I'll stick with Leyland
Which doesn't give much help,
And watch my game go down the drain
While I piss and moan and yelp.

At least I can play hardbat
If not too tolerantly
Where nobody plays Rozena
In Tucson, no sireee!

Lolzzzzz, love it
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Just talk to ITC distributor and he said ITC will release high performance rubber call P5
At first it was planed to release this March, but they delay production at least June(maybe improvement).
And I just order Powercell MP 45 for a test.

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The powercell mp is the only itc rubber that catches attention. Othe variants seem only above average.
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Yikessss you mean regular MP??
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Viscaria FL - 91g
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+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

0:32

"developed in the pursuit of 'tolerance'..."
...

Tolerance for what? Butterfly sky-high prices?...


Edited by DreiZ - 04/02/2017 at 11:02pm
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That topsheet looks like it's got a lot of tension. I wonder how it can appear so taut yet remain tolerant? LOL
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It's priced at $50 here in the states and 5,000 yen in Japan and coming out April 30th.

I actually might pick up a sheet if I can find it for a bit cheaper - I use Roundell on my backhand because it's less spinny (and less sensitive to spin with a lower throw).  For some reason though, Roundell is priced at $52 here in the states and only 4,200 yen in Japan (and often cheaper).
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A breakthrought from butterfly was so much needed, after so many years of the tenergy leadrship.
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Definitely on my EJ list, perhaps try it on BH.

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If this teaser video has some real pics of Rozena, then it looks like a tamed T64, not 05. Pips are small and sparse, yet not very low, much like T64. Definitely on my EJ list as a bh rubber for Primorac Carbon.
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will likely try it as well
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I'm going to try it as a substitute for my Sriver G3 on my backhand.
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Is there any reason one should use this over T64? Seems like a tamer version of T64 is all tbh, but we won't know until it releases!
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Going by the numbers, Rozena is closest to the T25.

Going by the topsheet, Rozena is closest to T80, if not identical.






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+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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With this pip size it will have nothing common with T25... Maybe, it's just a T80 with a 1 degree softer sponge. A notch softer, a notch slower, with spin insensitive topsheet similar to T80 - here it is, an all+ version of Tenergy!
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