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    Posted: 03/16/2017 at 4:13pm
Anyone tried the R47 yet? All I've seen so far are a few semi-marketing blurbs. Apparently the few who have tried it have stated that it is very fast with the 2.3mm sponge (unlike what the sliders on Andro's rubbers page indicate)

Am interested in seeing whether ESN's thin topsheet / thick sponge approach actually helped (unlike the same approach in the BTY Bryce HighSpeed).


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Mine are inbound. Hope to have them early next week. I'm hoping for an improvement on the el-s approach rather than something like Acuda Blue.
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Wow, Gucchy and company even hosted a live show celebrating the sale of Rasanter...
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What are the differences between the R42 and the V42 ?
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I think R prefixed stuff stands for rotation and V for velocity
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So the R should have more spin?
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Originally posted by Chopper88 Chopper88 wrote:

So the R should have more spin?


And the V should be faster. The marketing says that V and R have different topsheet. So it's a T05/T64 idea, with the V having smaller and wider-spaced pips.
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Which one would substitute Rasant Turbo?
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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by Chopper88 Chopper88 wrote:

So the R should have more spin?


And the V should be faster. The marketing says that V and R have different topsheet. So it's a T05/T64 idea, with the V having smaller and wider-spaced pips.


Thank you , please let me know how you like yours
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For TT11 the Rasanter series is 5%  expensiver than the old series

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must be good! the Rasanter are all out of stock at TT11 alreadyWink

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are you sure it's not that they posted it before acquiring stock?
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Originally posted by kurokami kurokami wrote:

are you sure it's not that they posted it before acquiring stock?

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Originally posted by kurokami kurokami wrote:

are you sure it's not that they posted it before acquiring stock?
just kidding - TT11 does that quite often - it was my way to to say they are not in stock yet even though they have them on their website


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What about rubber weight ?
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i just finished clearing my stocks from last yr besides a few tenergies.
rasanter is making me want to make a new order Stern Smile
i'm not making $ while in school. should i hold off or just buy now?


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THE Rasanter's are in stock as of now at TT11, still hot and straight from the factory...
still testing

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which rasanter will be closer to T64?
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Originally posted by t64t64t64 t64t64t64 wrote:

which rasanter will be closer to T64?

V47
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Originally posted by 4ugustu 4ugustu wrote:

Originally posted by t64t64t64 t64t64t64 wrote:

which rasanter will be closer to T64?

V47
But would it be the closest rubber to T64? 
Or there is another rubber which is a T64 clone?
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The suspense is too much, please forum members try it fast and review it lol
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I'll review the R47 over the weekend.
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hello, can you please let me know what rubber size 1.7, 2.0 ,2.3 in your review. cheers
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Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

I'll review the R47 over the weekend.

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if they are spinnier then the rasant generation...it will be a very good thing
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How is the sponge? Is it easy peel off old glue without damaging the sponge?
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Originally posted by PringlesRingles PringlesRingles wrote:

How is the sponge? Is it easy peel off old glue without damaging the sponge?

Well, that's more a function of sponge hardness and glue used, isn't it? I've never had any issue with Tearmender and any rubber with hardness > 42 degrees.

To me, it is really curious that Andro decided to completely stop manufacturing 2 rubbers that were probably their biggest sellers (Rasant and Rasant Grip) and then not have replacement 45 degree rubbers in the Rasanter series.

While they state that this is because the new stuff is so much better, I think that it is just a financial planning / budgeting decision: after all, a lot of these TT companies (other than BTY and DHS) aren't very large. If I'm not mistaken (& I could be), Andro is owned by a TT store.

But yes, I'm curious on how this new ESN generation (thinner topsheets & thicker sponges) plays out (from what I know, Donic shall follow with their 'Blue Storm' version of the same stuff, hopefully later this year).
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Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

Originally posted by PringlesRingles PringlesRingles wrote:

How is the sponge? Is it easy peel off old glue without damaging the sponge?

Well, that's more a function of sponge hardness and glue used, isn't it? I've never had any issue with Tearmender and any rubber with hardness > 42 degrees.

To me, it is really curious that Andro decided to completely stop manufacturing 2 rubbers that were probably their biggest sellers (Rasant and Rasant Grip) and then not have replacement 45 degree rubbers in the Rasanter series.

While they state that this is because the new stuff is so much better, I think that it is just a financial planning / budgeting decision: after all, a lot of these TT companies (other than BTY and DHS) aren't very large. If I'm not mistaken (& I could be), Andro is owned by a TT store.

But yes, I'm curious on how this new ESN generation (thinner topsheets & thicker sponges) plays out (from what I know, Donic shall follow with their 'Blue Storm' version of the same stuff, hopefully later this year).

The reason for not having a 45 degree sponge, is mainly due to the newer generation ESN rubbers testing higher than what they play, so essentially the 47 plays/feels like 45.
 


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Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

Originally posted by PringlesRingles PringlesRingles wrote:

How is the sponge? Is it easy peel off old glue without damaging the sponge?

To me, it is really curious that Andro decided to completely stop manufacturing 2 rubbers that were probably their biggest sellers (Rasant and Rasant Grip) and then not have replacement 45 degree rubbers in the Rasanter series.

While they state that this is because the new stuff is so much better, I think that it is just a financial planning / budgeting decision: after all, a lot of these TT companies (other than BTY and DHS) aren't very large. If I'm not mistaken (& I could be), Andro is owned by a TT store.



Well, actually this has nothing to do with any financial planning.
andro Rasant was introduced at the WTTC in Dortmund in 2012 and at that time we never expected, that in the end we could have a rubber line with six (or seven, if you consider Rasant Chaos) rubbers.
Thus we started with the development of all these Rasant rubbers without the knowledge, that further rubbers could come later. Every time a new Rasant rubber came up, we had to fill a gap in the series. In the end we had a rubber series with an improvisational hardness structure. It was hard for customers to guess the hardness and to understand every Rasant.

When developing RASANTER, we directly had in mind to build a reasonable structure following the customer's wishes. Furthermore in tests we found out, that this structure just had the best feedback.

If you used Rasant or Rasant Grip before, there are a few options to find a similar rubber:
Rasant -> R47 or R42
Rasant Grip -> V47 or R42




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Hi Bjoern , for Rasant Grip do you mean V47 or V42 not R42 ?
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