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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I noticed the throw is lower than expected. Quick loops along the line from close to the table tend to go out if using a tad too much wood: opening is trickier because of that but it's a matter of getting used to it. It's worth investing time for that because blocking, looping from mid distance and hitting is just great and super stable.

My observations on R47: to get spin, you have to use enough power / penetration to 'crack' the topsheet in the stroke (sort of like using Rhyzm). While the topsheet is thin, it is tough / stiff. Unlike other rubbers (like MX-P), if you don't get to the sponge, you don't get enough spin. So, very fine brush does not work as well.

This does not happen with the V series (in which, in fact, you get greater spin on soft brush strokes).

On the flip side, it is easier to use the sponge on the r47 than it is on other 47 deg rubbers (because the topsheet is thin).


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Wait I thought hard topsheet should make it easier to loop with thin contact, isn't baracuda a hard topsheet?
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V47 resemble me of rakza X rakza9 rather than T64

R47 I forgot how it feels. Sorry I didn't catch up with questions.
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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

The V isn't bad, but the R is excellent for spin and stability.

Did you find R *more* stable than V? I'm a few sessions into R42 (which is not enough to say too much, just now broken in - P.S. anyone trying to glean much from day 1-2 rubber is crazy - all new rubbers are awkwardly stiff / lacking feeling to me until broken in) and I already forget some things about V42 so it is hard to compare this directly, but regardless I am impressed with the stability of both. Probably the standout quality actually, with other things being good as well. R42 is probably the better forehand rubber but it's early. I will use this for a couple more weeks and then try Rozena, and settle on either that or R42/R47 (again, too bad there is no 44/45).
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So is V47 a good rubber for the backhand?
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Just checked Tibike's FS post, he does have andro rasanter in stock for 33 euros  a piece
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This is an excellent rubber. Has a good feel.   Very similar to Karis in behavior but a better feeling of grip.
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Are you talking about V?
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Wonder which one is closest to regular HEXER

Still haven't opened the V47(brb)
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

This is an excellent rubber. Has a good feel.   Very similar to Karis in behavior but a better feeling of grip.

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Originally posted by Kapmirch Kapmirch wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

This is an excellent rubber. Has a good feel.   Very similar to Karis in behavior but a better feeling of grip.


stop itCryCryCry


Hahahahaha....

Come on... stop letting your eyes grow big, buddy. I EJ for fun.
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

This is an excellent rubber. Has a good feel.   Very similar to Karis in behavior but a better feeling of grip.

If you're referring to the R47 that you bought from me, then I'm mildly surprised at this (given the Karis descriptions from a few reviewers).

I've never tried Karis, but a few commented that it is not a fast rubber. To me, R47 ultramax feels very fast (faster than T05, approaching MX-P power) and catapaulty.

I shall review R42 ultramax tomorrow. Was quiet impressed by the V42 2.0 (unfairly categorized as a 'speed' rubber - it is not that fast and it felt very spinny on the MJ blade).
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looks like it doesn't make sense now to buy something like Rasanter. You can just add $10 and get Rozena

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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

looks like it doesn't make sense now to buy something like Rasanter. You can just add $10 and get Rozena

why is that? Are they supposed to be similar rubbers???
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Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

looks like it doesn't make sense now to buy something like Rasanter. You can just add $10 and get Rozena


why is that? Are they supposed to be similar rubbers???


would you buy Rasanter if Tenergy was same price as Rasanter?
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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

looks like it doesn't make sense now to buy something like Rasanter. You can just add $10 and get Rozena


why is that? Are they supposed to be similar rubbers???


would you buy Rasanter if Tenergy was same price as Rasanter?

Oh, I thought you were talking about Rozena in your prior post and not Tenergy. My apologies. I have tried Rozena. No great shakes (prefer many new ESN rubbers to that).

Personally, I'm not buying Tenergy anyway, but I'm in the minority. For sure, T05 is a great rubber.

Either ways, I don't think you understand: Rasanter is not a rubber.

R47, R42, R37, R50, V42, V47 are rubbers. Two different types of topsheets and 4 different hardness levels - used for players with different preferences.

How can they all be similar to Rozena (or Tenergy, if you were referring to Tenergy. Were you referring to Tenergy?)?




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I don't feel difference between Rozena and Tenergy. I would say Rozena is Tenergy for 99,9%. From my observation most people buy ESN rubbers because they can't afford Tenergy. But now you can get Rozena for almost same price as ESN rubber. So people who changed from Tenergy to ESN rubbers because of Tenergy price increased can buy Rozena.
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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

I don't feel difference between Rozena and Tenergy. I would say Rozena is Tenergy for 99,9%. From my observation most people buy ESN rubbers because they can't afford Tenergy. But now you can get Rozena for almost same price as ESN rubber. So people who changed from Tenergy to ESN rubbers because of Tenergy price increased can buy Rozena.


I would highly, highly like to challenge that claim.
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The same way I fell for the Vega Pro blade as a more controllable MJ, I fell for R47 as a more controllable T05
MJ is too fast and T05 too bouncy; they require faster arm speed than I am capable of in most situations; I thought it was too bad since I always liked both blade and rubber very much; when I discovered the Vega Pro blade and the R47 it was a revelation.
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

The same way I fell for the Vega Pro blade as a more controllable MJ, I fell for R47 as a more controllable T05
MJ is too fast and T05 too bouncy; they require faster arm speed than I am capable of in most situations; I thought it was too bad since I always liked both blade and rubber very much; when I discovered the Vega Pro blade and the R47 it was a revelation.


on this page slevin said R47 faster then 05 :)
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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

I don't feel difference between Rozena and Tenergy..


Which is why you try so many different blades and rubbers?    
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Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

This is an excellent rubber. Has a good feel.   Very similar to Karis in behavior but a better feeling of grip.


If you're referring to the R47 that you bought from me, then I'm mildly surprised at this (given the Karis descriptions from a few reviewers).

I've never tried Karis, but a few commented that it is not a fast rubber. To me, R47 ultramax feels very fast (faster than T05, approaching MX-P power) and catapaulty.

I shall review R42 ultramax tomorrow. Was quiet impressed by the V42 2.0 (unfairly categorized as a 'speed' rubber - it is not that fast and it felt very spinny on the MJ blade).


I didn't feel R47 ultramax was very fast at all - I felt it was linear, which is the most important thing to me when using equipment, not low end or top end speed but that output in speed and spin in response to input have decent correlation. But I might just be that guy who hits the ball so senselessly that I can't make head or tail of what happens when I change bat and/or rubber.
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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:



on this page slevin said R47 faster then 05 :)


By faster, I meant more dynamic. Better top end.

T05 is more bouncy and more susceptible to incoming spin.
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I m not sure what constitutes a rubber as being dynamic, cause T05 in my experience is the best at playing dead when receiving serves etc and equally explosive when you want to power loop, don't think any other euro/japanese rubber on the market has such good extremes.
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Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:

Real tempted to get the R47, but want to wait for Aurus Prime for that purple sponge :D
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Originally posted by SmackDAT SmackDAT wrote:

Real tempted to get the R47, but want to wait for Aurus Prime for that purple sponge :D

Im also holding out for Aurus Prime too. I like ELS but my problem with it is that its a bit too heavy, wish it was 3-4 grams lighter per sheet once cut. Another quirk is that when i boost it few months into the usage to bring it back some juice it gets a bit soft for my liking.

47 degree Aurus Prime would be great if it plays similar to ELS and if its lighter but going to have to wait for the reviews.

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