Donic equivalent of Tenergy 05

wow, you must be rated atleast 2500 if you can do that to a tenergy in a week or 2. I think donic baracuda with some falco booster might be similar to tenergy 05.

Yikes, yes that sounds very expensive. Do you really feel like you need to change rubbers every 2 weeks? Even if you are playing every day hours at a time, I'm not so sure you need to do so. Anyways take a look at M2 by donic or xiom omega iv.

even CNT players I don't think change Tenergy every 2 weeks

So a sheet of tenergy has broken pips after 20-40 hours, and you use two sheets at a time?

Don't mind me asking, but what are you rated at? I m really curious, i have not known any friends being able to do this to 05.

rocketman222 wrote: Don't mind me asking, but what are you rated at? I m really curious, i have not known any friends being able to do this to 05.

Rating doesn't matter, it is all about technique and accuracy. He stated he use T05 for FH and it reminds me a case of my friend; he counter-topspin every my topspin on the table and the ball only hit to a very narrow spot in the middle of his rubber.
In this case, I guess the bat is heavy to make huge damage on stroke and the opponent must be powerful as well.

Well, there is no Donic rubber for this guy, try H3 D41-42 instead.

Jasonh wrote: chop4ever wrote: rocketman222 wrote: Don't mind me asking, but what are you rated at? I m really curious, i have not known any friends being able to do this to 05. Rating doesn't matter, it is all about technique and accuracy. He stated he use T05 for FH and it reminds me a case of my friend; he counter-topspin every my topspin on the table and the ball only hit to a very narrow spot in the middle of his rubber. In this case, I guess the bat is heavy to make huge damage on stroke and the opponent must be powerful as well. Well, there is no Donic rubber for this guy, try H3 D41-42 instead. I have some semi-professional friends who plays 2000+ level in China rating, and shown on the pictures their "ball marks" are not that concentrated. I think they change their Tenergy (fxp, els) around every 3-4 month. From your description it feels like your friend is definitely 2500+ USATT..  If our good player could waste Tenergy in two weeks, H3 won't stand a chance... probably will bubble in one week, even shorter when boosted....

Edited by Purett - 04/15/2017 at 10:30pm

Purett wrote: Jasonh wrote: chop4ever wrote: rocketman222 wrote: Don't mind me asking, but what are you rated at? I m really curious, i have not known any friends being able to do this to 05. Rating doesn't matter, it is all about technique and accuracy. He stated he use T05 for FH and it reminds me a case of my friend; he counter-topspin every my topspin on the table and the ball only hit to a very narrow spot in the middle of his rubber. In this case, I guess the bat is heavy to make huge damage on stroke and the opponent must be powerful as well. Well, there is no Donic rubber for this guy, try H3 D41-42 instead. I have some semi-professional friends who plays 2000+ level in China rating, and shown on the pictures their "ball marks" are not that concentrated. I think they change their Tenergy (fxp, els) around every 3-4 month. From your description it feels like your friend is definitely 2500+ USATT..  If our good player could waste Tenergy in two weeks, H3 won't stand a chance... probably will bubble in one week, even shorter when boosted.... 2650 players get a pimple tear in few matches on boosted  h3 on tenergy's about 20 days of play

There are some non-senses here.
1. Rating doesn't make sense. 3000+ rating but he only return and chop, his blade is soft and light, he could change a sheet after 2 months. 2000+ rating but he only attack aggressively, his opponent also attack powerfully, the bat is 200grs with booster. Give me a new T05 to my BH, after 2 hours counter attack against powerful loopdrive could bring the sheet become like 1 month used.

2. Players (esp pro) replace rubber because of feeling, they feel the rubber is not spiny enough due to their style. If you are a blocker, you could keep your rubber 2 years.

3. 2650 rating is not very high, how about Ma Long? Does he change rubber every match? ML's rubber shows evidence of heavily boosting. Why don't you ask the 2600+ guy which booster he has and where he got the H3? Low quality H3 + Falco cause bubble quickly, don't have to be 2000+ player. I could give that guy a new boosted H3 (my chemical), if he could tear the pimple after 1 week, he don't have to pay me anything. If after 1 week the rubber is still good, then it worth to pay me triple price, OK?




Edited by chop4ever - 04/16/2017 at 5:29am

Hi. I am not looking for more speed. Just want the same speed with the similar throw angle and spin potential. If the rubber had better short game characteristics that would be cool also. Really just looking for something that plays similar, weighs about the same (that's why MX-P is a no go-too heavy), and has more longevity. I pretty much realize I am asking a lot, but I appreciate everyone's recommendations and responses.

I would start with Hexer, Genius or Baracuda.  OTOH, there is something wrong with your technique if you are doing this.  But only your coach knows.

I wonder what glue the op uses?

I have had many people that say my FH stroke looks very good, so I don't think it's a technical issue.  I'll post some pics in a couple of weeks to show the sweet spot and the flattened pips I'm guessing.  I definitely notice an extreme performance change.  I was hitting like crap one day with some old Tenergy 05 on my Freitas ALC and broke out my Timo Boll ALC with newer rubber and instantly started hitting well.    Changed the rubber that night and the Freitas was good again.

As Andy asked, what glues are you using?  This might just be a rubber cement problem or VOC glue problem.

Edited by NextLevel - 04/16/2017 at 10:49am

I would also wonder if you use booster or some VOC glue. Booster does wear a rubber down pretty quick.