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    Posted: 04/16/2017 at 8:05pm
I am struggling to loop consistently a heavy backspin ball. Most of my FH loops are ending up in the net. If its a lighter backspin I am usually able to loop hit easily.  
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There are two common reasons for looping heavy backspin into the net:

1) Not enough follow through on the stroke.  A short follow through won't lift the ball.

2) Failure to get enough forward motion in the stroke.  A lot of people think that with heavy backspin they only want to focus on lift. However, without enough forward drive, the ball won't go bast the net.
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Originally posted by pacificspice pacificspice wrote:

I am struggling to loop consistently a heavy backspin ball. Most of my FH loops are ending up in the net. If its a lighter backspin I am usually able to loop hit easily.  
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If you have a good loop, just practice.   Do it step by step.   Try to loop the ball more and more slightly over the net until it starts clearing the net. Then practice looping against multiple kinds of spins and aiming the balls to different places so your loop becomes east to adapt to the ball. You are probably too used to looping topspin and haven't learned to adjust your racket angle and stroke plane to the ball.

As the spin gets heavier, it is important to learn to come round the side/axis of the ball more and more to avoid the main spin equator. This enables you to attack backspin aggressively while keeping the ball low.
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Originally posted by pacificspice pacificspice wrote:

I am struggling to loop consistently a heavy backspin ball. Most of my FH loops are ending up in the net. If its a lighter backspin I am usually able to loop hit easily.  
Thanks.

You probably haven't got low enough. For heavy backspin, you need to bring your racket below your knees sometimes which means bending down even further and using more of your legs to drive the shot upwards. Without that it is impossible to loop heavy backspin balls.  
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Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Originally posted by pacificspice pacificspice wrote:

I am struggling to loop consistently a heavy backspin ball. Most of my FH loops are ending up in the net. If its a lighter backspin I am usually able to loop hit easily.  
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You probably haven't got low enough. For heavy backspin, you need to bring your racket below your knees sometimes which means bending down even further and using more of your legs to drive the shot upwards. Without that it is impossible to loop heavy backspin balls.  
+1 on staying low. A coach told me something that helped my judgement once: "Get lower until the ball feels high".

In the OP's description, the "loop hit" is rather suspect. If it's heavy backspin, you need to brush, not hit.
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Imagine that the 6" net extends up 10 or 15 feet. Now imagine that you have a heavy brick in your hand that you need to through over the net. You will need to use your whole body, especially your legs. You will need to go from low to high with the toss. To lift heavy backspin the tip of your paddle should start pointing very much down and finish pointing up. If you are putting many balls in the net, aim for a spot on the floor beyond the table.
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Learn to lift that ball up and up! It's okay if it goes off the table, it's better than not clearing the net. The goal is to learn how to create you own spin on top of your opponents.
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Thanks for all the great suggestions. I am going to try these tips in practise. Also if I am getting this right I will need to put in more topspin than I receive in backspin to be able to put it back over the net? 

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All the advice up here are correct, you need combine all these advice before you loop. I just want to add once more is DO NOT REACH when you loop the ball. You need "move to the ball" then loop.
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