Is Tenergy factory boosted?

Is Tenergy factory boosted?

Edited by slevin - 04/19/2017 at 8:49pm

No. My red sheets are, on average, a bit harder than the black sheets (for both T05 & MX-P). So, I generally use black on BH.

NextLevel wrote: It could be the deterioration of the bubbles sponge.

Don't understand what you mean. The 'open T05 was most likely recently made (it had new style packaging).

slevin wrote: NextLevel wrote: It could be the deterioration of the bubbles sponge. Don't understand what you mean. The 'open T05 was most likely recently made (it had new style packaging).

I think it is, because new tenergy sponges dome quite a bit if you hold them at the center. But when I reglue them after a while, they're not nearly as "springy" or flexible. 

rocketman222 wrote: zeio wrote: Tenergy. Use Fresh. I microwave mine for 30 seconds, for that extra crispy feel

Delicious with a side of bacon.

Hi all,
the question probably is more along the line, what is considered factory tuned or boosted ?
Does it really make sense to differentiate all the modern "pre tensioned" rubbers (regardless which brand specific terminology) from other so called factory tuned or boosted rubbers?

I'm not a polymer engineer, neither I do have a chemical background of any sorts, but I don't believe
that those modern rubbers are possible without a solid chemical influence.....
Personally I  would consider Tenergy as somehow boosted - most likely even more than some others - more specifically I'd think the topsheet treatement is what it makes so different to most of the competitors. The following I learned by coincidence ....

This is a cut off from a classical Mark V :



This is a piece I punched out from the remains of a fresh Tenergy 05:



That is, what's happening after leaving the round piece of Tenergy (contact of topsheet to topsheet) for about 10 hours:



As you can see, some secret stuff made the Mark V topsheet swallowing impressively, just like any typical booster would do. There must be some stuff wandering from one to the other (possibly by some v.d. Waals forces) creating this effect....
Probably the ne or the other already had the same experience when accidentaly leaving a Tenergy on some classical rubber bat - at least this was what I did, resulting in some really ugly looking sriver.....;-)
The last time I mentioned this, I was called crazy and "what did you smoke".....
As said, I'm not an engineer, but that's my impression and anyone could do the same test .

Best regards!

Mizutani would be shocked to learn that he has been "boosting" all along.

No chemical booster smell. Plays the same over months of use and no shrinkage. Plus I have boosted my Tenergy before and know what boosted Tenergy plays like.

Edited by jpenmaster - 04/20/2017 at 11:55am

mhnh007 wrote: Did you try the same test but with the sponge side of the T05 on top of the rubber side of the MarkV?

That is exactly what the pictures show......T05 sponge changing top sheet of MarkV.

jpenmaster wrote: No chemical booster smell. Plays the same over months of use and no shrinkage. Plus I have boosted my Tenergy before and know what boosted Tenergy plays like.

There is some sort of tuning or conditioning in Tenergy sponge.  It shrinks a lot when you use it for awhile and remove it.  This is not from any physical tension....its chemical or other changing element of the sponge.  If it was from physical tension...after good amount of use the rubber would not shrink...it would stay the same or expand from relaxing. 

Also, sure you can boost Tenergy with what ever "booster/tuners" you have.  But that is most likely not close to what Butterfly uses to "condition" the sponge. 

rocketman222 wrote: +1, I hit with someone's racket that had 4 year old tenergy, and surprised by how decent they played, that is durability closing on the levels of Mark v

Maybe for play performance....not for physical build quality.  Tenergy edges chip easy....MarkV edges are super tuff because of natural rubber content. 






Edited by Rich215 - 04/20/2017 at 1:19pm

Rich215 wrote: mhnh007 wrote: Did you try the same test but with the sponge side of the T05 on top of the rubber side of the MarkV? That is exactly what the pictures show......T05 sponge changing top sheet of MarkV.

Well,....no, the picture shows the reaction topsheet on topsheet contact. That's what surprised me as well and made me think about it a lot. But makes perfect sense - Tenergy is the only rubber where
every single pimple pops out visually , even when not glued to blade.  Typically this happens only to well boosted rubbers after glueing to blade. To me there's only one logical explanation for this - the topsheet is full of this stuff.
But to answer the other posters question, almost the same reaction when Tenergy sponge to topsheet of classical rubber contact.

To me it's more or less semanthics how to call it - but to expect this characteristic without chemical
help is a bit naive. I'm pretty sure one could say Btfy has some superior method, especially in regards of lifetime, but to deny the existance of chemical ingredients , well .....

BTW, my son, who I'd call an advanced player, uses at least two sheets of Tenergy/month - changing even more often for important matches. 
I'd agree it can play much longer pretty well - maybe better than some others, but performance is not closed to a fresh sheet. It depends on playing level and demand.....

Baal wrote: What I don't understand then is the stability of the rubber.  Why doesn't it evaporate away, and why doesn't it set of VOC detectors?

Some distributor open Tenergy/Evolution package to air-dry before assemble it lose booster condition but less shrinking when removed. 

bbkon wrote: i know a player who was in the worlds team and got one used rubber sheet from muramatsu and had some chemical smell on it

Which probably just means that he boosts it, which shouldn't surprise anyone.  Normally it just has the smell of rubber.

This post seems strange to me. This rubber has been out almost 10 years and now people think it is has some secret special tuner that lasts the whole life of the rubber and can't be detected.