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    Posted: 04/20/2017 at 1:33pm
CNT Huangshi Training Base, where the women's team will train.


The men's team trains somewhere in Shenzhen.




Major threats for men's team at WTTC Dusseldorf 2017. Broken into 3 groups. Guess who they are.


Edited by zeio - 04/20/2017 at 1:39pm
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we are all eager to find out the "Major threats for women's team at WTTC" pic LOL

BTW, I hear that DN is sick and she is not at the Training Base.
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20 players are there, which is a bit of overkill, as only 5
Players will players take part in the Wtttc.
It must be depressing for these players who missed out on team selection.
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Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

20 players are there, which is a bit of overkill, as only 5
Players will players take part in the Wtttc.
It must be depressing for these players who missed out on team selection.
You misread the pic. There are 5 players and 25 trainers in the pic LOLLOLLOLLOL
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:



Major threats for men's team at WTTC Dusseldorf 2017. Broken into 3 groups. Guess who they are.

Good find. That would be a cool poster to have up in a club. 

I can make out the top row but it gets a bit harder after that. Suppose it's just all the highest ranking non-Chinese players more or less in order. Who's the third German player, far right side?
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Quote Change nothing in your play when it goes fine.   Look to change when it goes wrong.
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:



Since row 1 is easy (JYS, CCY, DO, JM, TB, VS, MF),  LEt's look at 2 and 3.

1. WCT
2. KK
3. KN
4. SF
5. JSH
6. CCA
7. LSS
8. SG
9. TP
10. RG
11. TA
12. AS
13. KM
14. EL


01. PD
02. LP
03. PG
04. TF
05. PF
06. MK
07. HC
08. GN
09. CW
10. GP
11. QA
12. AG
13. JW

My first stab.  Corrections welcome.


Edited by NextLevel - 04/20/2017 at 7:23pm
I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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Nice work.
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Originally posted by Odie Odie wrote:

Nice work.

Thx.  There are couple I am not sure of. For example, #9 in group 3 could really be BT, but I just put in what I did because the flag looked Austrian and #13 in Group 3 could really be HT.  #10 in Group 2 I really don't think is RG, but I draw a blank when trying to think of anyone else it could be.


Edited by NextLevel - 04/20/2017 at 8:24pm
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:




Since row 1 is easy (JYS, CCY, DO, JM, TB, VS, MF),  LEt's look at 2 and 3.

1. WCT
2. KK
3. KN
4. SF
5. JSH
6. CCA
7. LSS
8. SG
9. TP
10. RG
11. TA
12. AS
13. KM
14. EL


01. PD
02. LP
03. PG
04. TF
05. PF
06. MK
07. HC
08. GN
09. CW
10. GP
11. QA
12. AG
13. JW

My first stab.  Corrections welcome.



Interestingly, Boll, Samsonov, Jeoung YS, Freitas, CCY all have lower ranking than WTC, but are all placed in Group 1. THEY are all considered THE biggest threats by the cnt along with Ovtcharov and mizutani.

So the cnt agree with me that the guy from hong kong is pretty overated, despite a high WR of #7, hence putting him in group 2.



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Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:




Since row 1 is easy (JYS, CCY, DO, JM, TB, VS, MF),  LEt's look at 2 and 3.

1. WCT
2. KK
3. KN
4. SF
5. JSH
6. CCA
7. LSS
8. SG
9. TP
10. RG
11. TA
12. AS
13. KM
14. EL


01. PD
02. LP
03. PG
04. TF
05. PF
06. MK
07. HC
08. GN
09. CW
10. GP
11. QA
12. AG
13. JW

My first stab.  Corrections welcome.



Interestingly, Boll, Samsonov, Jung YS, Freias, CCY all have lower ranking than WTC, but are all placed in Group 1. THEY are all considered THE biggest threats by the cnt along with Ovtcharov and mizutani.

So the cnt agree with me that the guy from hong kong is pretty overated hence putting him in group 2.

I  knew you would say that.  It's really about performance vs CNT players and the risk of not knowing them, WCT has only barely beaten a top CNT player once, the others have been stronger threats.  WCT is a threat against everyone else not in the CNT, hence his ranking and rating.
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:




Since row 1 is easy (JYS, CCY, DO, JM, TB, VS, MF),  LEt's look at 2 and 3.

1. WCT
2. KK
3. KN
4. SF
5. JSH
6. CCA
7. LSS
8. SG
9. TP
10. RG
11. TA
12. AS
13. KM
14. EL


01. PD
02. LP
03. PG
04. TF
05. PF
06. MK
07. HC
08. GN
09. CW
10. GP
11. QA
12. AG
13. JW

My first stab.  Corrections welcome.



Interestingly, Boll, Samsonov, Jung YS, Freias, CCY all have lower ranking than WTC, but are all placed in Group 1. THEY are all considered THE biggest threats by the cnt along with Ovtcharov and mizutani.

So the cnt agree with me that the guy from hong kong is pretty overated hence putting him in group 2.


I  knew you would say that.  It's really about performance vs CNT players and the risk of not knowing them, WCT has only barely beaten a top CNT player once, the others have been stronger threats.  WCT is a threat against everyone else not in the CNT, hence his ranking and rating.


In other word, overated,
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admins should suspend for a week people who quote a 2 page post to say one line. What is wrong with you people? Everybody gets riled up for the most stupid things, but they don't care when they spit out nonsense in 3 pages. I don't come here much these days and when i do it's impossible to catch up with some thread because every moron thinks its necessary to quote the entire thing before typing his nonsense.

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Not sure if they are all correct, but for everybody's benefit...

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:



Since row 1 is easy (Jung Young Sik, Chaung Chih Yuan, Dimitri Ovtcharov, Jun Mizutani, Timo Boll, Vladimir Samsonov, Marcos Freitas),  Let's look at 2 and 3.

1. Wong Chun Ting
2. Kristian Karlsson
3. Koki Niwa
4. Stefan Fegerl
5. Joo Sae Hyuk
6. Chien Chen An
7. Lee Sang Su
8. Simon Gayzy
9. Tang Peng
10. Robert Gardos
11. Tiago Apolonia
12. Alexander Shibaev
13. Kenta Matsudaira
14. Emmanuel Lebesson


01. Paul Drinkhall
02. Liam Pitchford
03. Par Gerell
04. Tristan Flore
05. Patrick Franziska
06. Mattias Karlsson
07. Hugo Calderano
08. Gao Ning
09. Chen Weixin
10. Gionis Panagiotis
11. Aruna Quadri
12. Andrej Gacina
13. Jang Woojin

My first stab.  Corrections welcome.
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Flore will be a serious threat, more so than many
players in group 2.
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5. looks like Lee Sangsu to me. 7. looks to be Jeong Sangeun.

01. and 02. switched.

05. could be Bastian Steger.

09. looks to be a Slovenia player. Top pick: Bojan Tokic.

13. has gotta be a Japanese player. Top pick: Yuya Oshima.

Edited by zeio - 04/21/2017 at 9:55am
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Someone should go to Huangshi Training Base
and confirm the names
of the players for us

Edited by monster23 - 04/21/2017 at 9:57am
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All wrong in that case, as that big-ass poster is sitting in Shenzhen.
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

5. looks like Lee Sangsu to me. 7. looks to be Jeong Sangeun.

01. and 02. switched.

05. could be Bastian Steger.

09. looks to be a Slovenia player. Top pick: Bojan Tokic.

13. has gotta be a Japanese player. Top pick: Yuya Oshima.

Most of the corrections you made are in my post are TTD and the Korean ones are likely correct - 5 could be BS but the pose in the picture is one I associate with PF.   13, I picked HT, but you are right, it could be YO.  
The Olympics 2016 list was very similar only that JSH was in Tier 1 and LSS and JYS were in tier 2 for Korea.


Edited by NextLevel - 04/21/2017 at 10:25am
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Like someone else, I would love to have that poster for the wall of our club.
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More pix.





















BOOM!
Click to enlarge.


It's Jang Woojin instead of Jeong Sangeun.

It's indeed Franziska.

The last player on the list turns out to be Tomokazu Harimoto!

Edited by zeio - 04/21/2017 at 12:26pm
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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HARIMOTO in group 3. Wow.
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The women's team is off-limits to the public. Can't dig up nothing.
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Originally posted by monster23 monster23 wrote:

Flore will be a serious threat, more so than many
players in group 2.


Flore is a big threat. Has beaten top players like boll, Lin gaoyuan.
Almost beat ma long as well
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Anyone else that is not on the list but could prove fatal to the CNT?

Jakub Dyjas?
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

The women's team is off-limits to the public. Can't dig up nothing.
you are right; the only 2 news from women's team are DN is sick and ZJk's ex-coach is coaching LSW now.
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2017 Men's TT Shenzhen Closed Training Routine Time Table

3 sessions per day heavy workload
8:00AM Assembly
8:00-8:30 Breakfast
8:30-9:15 Hygiene, training preps
9:15 Assembly (technical training)
11:30-12:20 (physical training)
12:20-13:00 Lunch
13:00-15:15 Break
15:30-17:20
17:20-18:00 Dimsum (TL's note: XD)
19:00 Assembly (single-/multi-ball training)
21:20-22:00 Dinner
21:20-23:00 Rehab, rest
23:00 Lights out

2 sessions per day medium workload
8:00AM Assembly
8:00-8:30 Breakfast
8:30-9:15 Hygiene, training preps
9:15 Assembly (technical training)
11:40-12:30 (physical training)
12:30-13:00 Lunch
13:00-15:15 Break
15:30 Assembly (single-/multi-ball training)
18:20-19:00 Dinner
20:00-21:30 Study
21:30-23:00 Rehab, rest
23:00 Lights out

Edited by zeio - 04/21/2017 at 1:00pm
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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