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    Posted: 10/14/2017 at 1:15pm
Clipper is definitely stiffer and faster. I play Celero presently and I'd say it remeinds me of AR Classic Carbon, just a bit faster.
It's still a good blade that gives you nice and clear feel while playing.
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Originally posted by p1ngp0ng3r p1ngp0ng3r wrote:

Glad the Infinity doesn't have the metal tag! 
I have the Celero and Eternity VPS with metal tag and I think it's very annoying. Really dislike it to be honest. It looks great, but I don't like the feel of it.




how fast and stiff is the celero compared to clipper?
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Originally posted by arg0 arg0 wrote:

If you care about one more data point, the metal tag looks cool (pun intended) and does not bother me at all.


Thanks for the feedback. I can't get a hold of one to try out, so it's not worth taking a chance. But I wonder why would they even take a chance with such a design? A finely honed handle interrupted by a label in relief?? To me, it is just a very strange marketing/design decision. I was about to pull the trigger on TT11 but decided not to after reading the review on TTGear.

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If you care about one more data point, the metal tag looks cool (pun intended) and does not bother me at all.
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Originally posted by p1ngp0ng3r p1ngp0ng3r wrote:

Glad the Infinity doesn't have the metal tag! 
I have the Celero and Eternity VPS with metal tag and I think it's very annoying. Really dislike it to be honest. It looks great, but I don't like the feel of it.



Isn't it incredible how a company in business as long as Stiga has can mess up on a detail like this? It's almost like they have a death wish. Their website is also lacking in many ways. Sometimes it's the little things that make big differences.
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Glad the Infinity doesn't have the metal tag! 
I have the Celero and Eternity VPS with metal tag and I think it's very annoying. Really dislike it to be honest. It looks great, but I don't like the feel of it.

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Originally posted by richrf richrf wrote:

Is anyone using the Artic Wood or any other Stiga blade with the aluminum name plate on the handle that is in relief? TTgear complained that these new name plates bothered him at his finger tips and had to make sure that it was in the forehand side. Anyone else encounter the same problem? It seems strange that Stiga would disrupt a straight handle with this kind of unnecessary ornamentation.


At one point I had the Eternity VPS with Master handle. While I definitely could feel the metal tag it didn't really bother me whether the tag was at my finger tips or my palm. YMMV.
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Is anyone using the Artic Wood or any other Stiga blade with the aluminum name plate on the handle that is in relief? TTgear complained that these new name plates bothered him at his finger tips and had to make sure that it was in the forehand side. Anyone else encounter the same problem? It seems strange that Stiga would disrupt a straight handle with this kind of unnecessary ornamentation.

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Originally posted by arg0 arg0 wrote:

Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

no way intensity and clipper are the same speed

You mean Clipper is faster?


no.arg0 intensity is clearly faster stiff thinner but stiffer not friendly with all rubbers
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Originally posted by arg0 arg0 wrote:

Originally posted by DLC1325 DLC1325 wrote:

Originally posted by arg0 arg0 wrote:


What blade with Koto outer do you think is similar? I may consider testing it.
Did you consider the whole composition of the blade (spruce intermediate plies and ayous core) and thickness?

I have a Yinhe/Galaxy E-1 which has Koto outers, 5-ply.  I have no idea what the composition is and I will avoid that EJ rabbit hole.  I'm bad enough as it is and trying varying compositions will only make it worse.  Smile

That's a wise decision! LOL
Yinhe E-1 is a good blade. Let me point out, though, that it plays very differently from Arctic Wood, at least as far as I can remember.
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I'm sure it plays differently than E-1 especially with the VPS plies.

I'm using Ebenholz V right now and its fine.  Arctic Wood just seems really cool. (pun intended Cool)

I'm still curios if anyone has played both Ebenholz V and Arctic Wood and can give a comparison--so one more bump.
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Originally posted by DLC1325 DLC1325 wrote:

Originally posted by arg0 arg0 wrote:


What blade with Koto outer do you think is similar? I may consider testing it.
Did you consider the whole composition of the blade (spruce intermediate plies and ayous core) and thickness?

I have a Yinhe/Galaxy E-1 which has Koto outers, 5-ply.  I have no idea what the composition is and I will avoid that EJ rabbit hole.  I'm bad enough as it is and trying varying compositions will only make it worse.  Smile

That's a wise decision! LOL
Yinhe E-1 is a good blade. Let me point out, though, that it plays very differently from Arctic Wood, at least as far as I can remember.
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Originally posted by arg0 arg0 wrote:


What blade with Koto outer do you think is similar? I may consider testing it.
Did you consider the whole composition of the blade (spruce intermediate plies and ayous core) and thickness?

I have a Yinhe/Galaxy E-1 which has Koto outers, 5-ply.  I have no idea what the composition is and I will avoid that EJ rabbit hole.  I'm bad enough as it is and trying varying compositions will only make it worse.  Smile

Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

but a fast blade is not always better

This is true and I didn't mean to imply I wanted a faster blade.  Just curios about the Arctic vs Ebenholz V.  Actually, I probably play the most consistently with the E-1 (ALL+/OFF-).
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Originally posted by DLC1325 DLC1325 wrote:

Does anyone have experience with Arctic Wood and Ebenholz V that could give a comparison?  TTGearLab is supposed to do a write up of Arctic Wood soon and TTDaily's site is being glitchy though it looks like some good info is on there if only I could get to it.

I imagine Arctic Wood will be slightly stiffer (6.0 vs 5.8), slightly softer (not many woods have a harder Janka than ebony), maybe less head heavy (no hollow handle?), and maybe Arctic Wood is a low OFF while Ebenholz V is a high OFF- (since Stiga always overrates their blades).  

I also suspect the feel/feedback will be nice like the Ebenholz V as stated in the German forum review above.

Any input is appreciated!

EDIT:  Well, I found the info that killed it for me, but still interested to hear what anyone has to say.



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Originally posted by DLC1325 DLC1325 wrote:

Maybe "killed" was a strong word because it still sounds like a great blade, but it seems to sit where I have similar blades which makes is pointless to get.  Also the Janka of "Mountain Ash" is similar to Koto and I already have a Koto blade.

What blade with Koto outer do you think is similar? I may consider testing it.
Did you consider the whole composition of the blade (spruce intermediate plies and ayous core) and thickness?
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Originally posted by arg0 arg0 wrote:


What was the killing factor?


Maybe "killed" was a strong word because it still sounds like a great blade, but it seems to sit where I have similar blades which makes is pointless to get.  Also the Janka of "Mountain Ash" is similar to Koto and I already have a Koto blade.

It sure is pretty though!  (I'm a sucker for hardwoods)

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Originally posted by DLC1325 DLC1325 wrote:

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I imagine Arctic Wood will be slightly stiffer (6.0 vs 5.8), slightly softer (not many woods have a harder Janka than ebony), maybe less head heavy (no hollow handle?), and maybe Arctic Wood is a low OFF while Ebenholz V is a high OFF- (since Stiga always overrates their blades).  

I also suspect the feel/feedback will be nice like the Ebenholz V as stated in the German forum review above.

Any input is appreciated!

EDIT:  Well, I found the info that killed it for me, but still interested to hear what anyone has to say.

I've never played with Ebenholz, so I cannot compare directly. However, Arctic Wood has a neutral balance (with 2.0 rubbers). The handle is likely a bit hollow, like most handles are, but not as hollow as WRB): anyway, the blade does not feel hollow to me and has quite some vibrations, which I like.

What was the killing factor?

Edit: typo


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Does anyone have experience with Arctic Wood and Ebenholz V that could give a comparison?  TTGearLab is supposed to do a write up of Arctic Wood soon and TTDaily's site is being glitchy though it looks like some good info is on there if only I could get to it.

I imagine Arctic Wood will be slightly stiffer (6.0 vs 5.8), slightly softer (not many woods have a harder Janka than ebony), maybe less head heavy (no hollow handle?), and maybe Arctic Wood is a low OFF while Ebenholz V is a high OFF- (since Stiga always overrates their blades).  

I also suspect the feel/feedback will be nice like the Ebenholz V as stated in the German forum review above.

Any input is appreciated!

EDIT:  Well, I found the info that killed it for me, but still interested to hear what anyone has to say.


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This review comes from a German Forum (tt-news.de).
It is part of a longer post. It's machine translated. I changed some parts to make it more readable, it has still rough edges, though.

This season I ended up trying my last two Saive Power. These are a little stiffer than the Stiga off classic Wrb... and are no longer produced (?).
So [...] I bought the two new Woods....
The Stiga Arctic Wood and the Stiga Celero wood.

[Coming] From the Offensive Classic WRB (OCW), or from the Saive Power, I was hoping that among the two woods I wound find a successor, which can be played a little faster and stiffer. The first test with old rubbers was not so meaningful. So I also quickly ordered the same current rubbers in new...
[...]
The very short comparison/first impressions were thus created when playing an Energy Wood (EW), a Celero Wood and an Arctic Wood...
All with Aurus 1.9 black FH and Aurus soft 1.7 red BH.

Actually, I had looked at the Celero Wood as my new blade... possibly for the next few years...
The Arctic Wood was more of an impulse buy.

And now, so at the beginning the Celero seems to be more similar to OCW, is to say it plays "softer" and becomes fast when you play with spin... The EW seems to be a little faster... Because the EW is unfortunately often too fast. I like the Celero already... the purchase will probably not be a mistake.

But there's the Arctic Wood.... and that's kind of an outlier in a surprisingly positive sense.
-Not as fast as the Infinity
-Immediate feeling of good control
-Good feedback
-and it is stiffer and more direct... than EW, Celero, OCW etc.
-You can also attack... as with the previous Tube Light!
-and yet also the positive impressions at the topspin...
-it seemed to me at the beginning like the jack of all trades
-playable in the short game for a "coarse motor skilled" like I am... (EW is too fast for me for this)
-Still a really good feedback.... you notice immediately that you have Stiga in your hand.
-and like with the Tube Light, you can also shoot dully.
-Unlike the yes very stiff Tube Light, the Arctic wood gives more detailed feedback (how to describe it? Maybe like this it is already understandable...)

So during the short test I was surprised by the fact that I had repeatedly resorted to Arctic wood... The racket makes the best impression in the first quick comparison.
[...]
Briefly summed up: If you are looking for a a little bit harder EW and don't want to have as much speed as with the Infinity, you might have found it with the Arctic Wood. Definitely.

Those who play the Saive Power and are looking for a successor will probably not be able to avoid testing the Arctic Wood.

If [you want a blade that] is not so direct and not quite so fast.... there is still Celero wood... though the Celero may be put away in the closet with my other blades at the beginning of the season, because the Arctic Wood has left such a really good first impression. (Hopefully at that price the manufacturing fluctuations are rather small.)
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After a long wait, finally received mine today.  With Rasanter V50 and R47, the combo seemed quite (too?) fast on a simple bounce test.  The pale wood handle looked more interesting in the photos.
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Originally posted by jpenmaster jpenmaster wrote:

That is an interesting outer veneer. The tree in their picture looks like some type of conifer which would be soft wood. The top veneer reminds me of quarter sawn ash or birch. Arctic Birch is used in guitars and gun stocks but you dont see a lot of it quarter sawn.Second ply is obviously spruce and since it's stiga the core is ayous.
Quarter sawn birch looks like this

Do you have a larger image of that birch? I first thought it could be birch, too, but eventually I found some quarter sawn images of Sorbus aucuparia (see my previous posts) and I think it's more similar.
Note: though also called rowan or mountain ash, Sorbus aucuparia is unrelated to the true ash trees (genus Fraxinus).Save

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Hot mercy Martha!  You guys are quite the dendrologists.  Back when I was a sophomore in high school I compiled a leaf collection for a botany project and could tell a quercus rubra (red oak) leaf from an acer rubrum (red maple) one.  

Back in that day we didn't worry too much about the composition of our ping pong paddles though.  I do remember that they were pretty much made of some kind of wood though.  Probably not Arctic wood, and they certainly weren't Stigas.


That's the power of Internet. Without it, I would barely be able to tell a maple from an oak tree! :o)

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That is an interesting outer veneer. The tree in their picture looks like some type of conifer which would be soft wood. The top veneer reminds me of quarter sawn ash or birch. Arctic Birch is used in guitars and gun stocks but you dont see a lot of it quarter sawn.Second ply is obviously spruce and since it's stiga the core is ayous.
Quarter sawn birch looks like this


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Hot mercy Martha!  You guys are quite the dendrologists.  Back when I was a sophomore in high school I compiled a leaf collection for a botany project and could tell a quercus rubra (red oak) leaf from an acer rubrum (red maple) one.  

Back in that day we didn't worry too much about the composition of our ping pong paddles though.  I do remember that they were pretty much made of some kind of wood though.  Probably not Arctic wood, and they certainly weren't Stigas.


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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Someone on Yahoo posted the composition for the Artic Wood as Tamo, Kiri, Ayous, where Tamo(Tamo Ash) can refer to two trees - Fraxinus mandshurica var. japonica(Manchurian Ash) and Fraxinus japonica. The former is native to northeastern Asia in northern China (Gansu, Hebei, Heilongjiang, Henan, Hubei, Jilin, Liaoning, Shaanxi, Shanxi), Korea, Japan and southeastern Russia (Sakhalin Island), whereas the latter originates from the Japanese archipelago.


How do they suppport this statement? I find this hard to believe: first, the intermediate ply really looks like spruce to me, not Kiri. Spruce has a distinct striped patter, kiri has not. Moreover, Arctic Wood (AW) is from the VPS series, which have thermally treated intermediate plies. To me they look the same as in Infinity VPS V, which is known to be spruce.

As to the outer plies, tamo ash is indeed a common name for several wood types, most famous for their swirly-grain that sometimes has "peanut" figures. This is not the case for AW. Yet, I found some pictures of some tamo-ish ash (Fraxinus sieboldiana) that do look a bit like the outer plies of AW, though the stripes are generally much darker. Stiga claims to have selected a rare tree that grows north of the Arctic Circle. Fraxinus sieboldiana has a USDA hardiness zone of 6, meaning that it is able to withstand a minimum temperature of about -23C (-10F). This means that it is able to grow at certain warm locations in the Arctic. Not many locations, though, which could be why it is "rare".

Well, it would be interesting to know whether the post you found does cite any source.
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Someone on Yahoo posted the composition for the Artic Wood as Tamo, Kiri, Ayous, where Tamo(Tamo Ash) can refer to two trees - Fraxinus mandshurica var. japonica(Manchurian Ash) and Fraxinus japonica. The former is native to northeastern Asia in northern China (Gansu, Hebei, Heilongjiang, Henan, Hubei, Jilin, Liaoning, Shaanxi, Shanxi), Korea, Japan and southeastern Russia (Sakhalin Island), whereas the latter originates from the Japanese archipelago.
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Originally posted by t64t64t64 t64t64t64 wrote:

king of bullshit and no-sense ?!

Go to, thou base born, fen suckled, whey faced, heifer humping. sheep swiving, shake shagging, beetle breathed, spindle shanked, needle's eye of a clotpole!  May you use nought but Stiga Arctic wood blades until the end of your days.

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One review I found on tabletennis-reference.com. Bing's automated translation is better.

Reviewer: Persimmon pea (Experience: more than 20 years)
2017/07/04

Original review

スティガに勤めている友人のご厚意で早めに貰いましたwお金は払いましたが。
あ、なお、ネオ3は、国狂です。
硬いなーと思いましたが、のわりには回転が非常によく、バランスがいいです。スピードがコントロールをよくしてくれていて、万能なラケットに感じました。
ただ、力がないとこのラケットは本領発揮できないですね。
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I got it early on behalf of my friend working for Stiga. W I paid the money.
Well, Neo 3 is a national devotion.
I thought that it was hard, but in spite of the rotation it is very well, well-balanced. Speed ​​has improved the control, I felt like a versatile racquet.
However, we can not demonstrate this racket without strength.
If you are a self-confident muscle you certainly

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I got it early with the courtesy of a friend who works for Stiga W I paid the money.
Oh, and, neo-3 is a country maniac.
I thought it was hard, but the rotation is very good, and the balance is nice. The speed was good for the control, and I felt it to be a versatile racket.
However, if there is no power, this racket cannot be demonstrated.
People who have muscle confidence by all means

Overall 15/15
Speed     13/15
Spin     14/15
Control 13/15
Touch     14/15
Hardness     hard
Recommended rubber (Forehand) EARLY Kyo leopard 3
Recommended rubber (Backhand) Bryce High Speed

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Originally posted by t64t64t64 t64t64t64 wrote:

king of bullshit and no-sense ?!

That sounds offensive. Not talking about the blade, though.
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I'd rather be a forest than a blade.
Yes I would,
If I only could.
I'm Arctic Wood.
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