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Presently 254 entries - Projected 800+

AK & HI already represented

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Presently 345 entries - Projected 800+


Registration Deadline May 31
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I think it will come up short of the 800. My guess 720.
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Originally posted by danseemiller danseemiller wrote:

I think it will come up short of the 800. My guess 720.


I think you are correct, although I'm always surprised at the number of last minute entries.

 I'm wondering what the 2018 will look like with the World Veterans Games 2 weeks before the Nationals.  Since both are in Las Vegas I am going to have to decide which one to go to.   I'm leaning toward the Nationals because of the extra events I can enter. 
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Boy Mike, that is a toughie.  At the World Vets' you're guaranteed at least three matches in the Championship and Consolation round robins plus you get to play against every style from steady Asian classic penhold topspinners to cagey Euro twiddlers who chop with long pips on their forehand side, have nasty angled pushes and sudden backhand attacks as quick as a desert thunderstorm.  It's ironic that now that I don't play competitively this particular World Vets' is just a 410 mile plane ride from Tucson.

OTOH, at the Nats you can enter any event for which you are eligible and as many events as your pocketbook can afford.  You just have to go with what your table tennis heart tells you on this one.


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Guarantee of 8 matches at the World Vets if you have a doubles partner. 4 singles and 4 doubles.

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Originally posted by danseemiller danseemiller wrote:

Guarantee of 8 matches at the World Vets if you have a doubles partner. 4 singles and 4 doubles.

that is nice...i know many people are looking forward to the event
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Originally posted by danseemiller danseemiller wrote:

Guarantee of 8 matches at the World Vets if you have a doubles partner. 4 singles and 4 doubles.


Exactly, Dan.  Though it's been a mere 15 years since I last played in a World Vets' (in Lucerne, Switzerland) I in a moment of brain freeze forgot about the doubles. 

Let's see now.  As I recall, I hope correctly, the Championship round robin consists of four players.  Thus you play three players in the Championship round.  If you finish first (which I never did), you get to go to the next Championship round, which is single elimination.

The same goes for the Consolation round.  If you finish first in Consolation singles, the next rounds are single elimination.
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If I recall correctly, and maybe I don't as my once razor sharp brain has turned into a neurological train wreck, the doubles goes under the same procedure.

If I'm wrong, which does occasionally happen, would you be so kind as to straighten out the World Vets' procedure for mts288, should he change his mind and to decide to attend it instead of the Nationals. 

At any rate, the World Vets', and I played in six of them, is well organized, with a day off in the middle of the week to go on an excursion which is not too expensive plus you get to meet and play against different styles from all over the world and learn to count to 21 (now to 11) in a number of languages.

One thing that does surprise me though, for those of us over 75 and in particular those around 80-85.  No separate hardbat event.  Curses.  If the World Vets' had seen fit to have a HB event, I might actually have gotten out of the first Championship round. 

Oh well.



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Presently 449 entries - Projected 800+

Early Registration Deadline Friday May 19

Final Registration Deadline May 31



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Originally posted by Gordy Gordy wrote:

If anyone is looking for a partner for the teams event, please let me know. I have a friend from Colorado (rated around 1200) who is looking for someone to partner with in the event.

FYI - the registration/entry website has a glitch in it and we have a number of teams (don't have the exact number right now) entered in the teams event. We are trying to figure out why it is not showing - our registration team is working on this. 

As it relates to doubles, if you love to play doubles (which I do), I would suggest the team event as an alternative to the 2700/3700 that we are not having at this year's Nationals. You are guaranteed more matches (round robin groups of 4 means that you will get at least three doubles matches in)...hopefully people enjoy the team event!

Hi Gordon,

I don't know if you're still monitoring this thread, but I ran into a problem with the Adult Team Day event and I thought you might be able to help.  I'm posting this here in case anyone else runs into this.

I registered to play in that team event (since, as you say, we are now missing the U2700/3700 doubles) with a local friend of mine as a teammate.  My friend is Serbian, meaning he's not a US citizen.  When he went to register, Jon Taylor told him that US citizenship is required for this event.  This, of course, means I've got no teammate and my fiend misses this event (after I talked him into it!).

My objection is two-fold: first, I can't find anywhere in the materials for the Adult Team Day event that says it's restricted on citizenship.  How can you add a restriction without publishing it first?  Second, there is no purpose in making this restriction, since it's really supposed to be a replacement for lost doubles event.

I exchanged a couples of emails with Jon and he stated that "it's like the junior teams".  But that doesn't make any sense: the junior teams is about qualifying to join the junior teams that represent the US.  Our event is about playing as part of a personal team (friends, clubmates, whatever) in an event that has no particular significance beyond the Nationals tournament.

Can you explain this to me?  Or, better yet, get a more sensible ruling on this?  And quickly?  Clearly, staying or not staying for a Saturday even effects my flight and hotel plans (and that of my friend). 

Thanks.
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Ben -

Thanks for pointing this out. 

NON-US CITIZENS MAY ENTER THE ADULT TEAM EVENT! The on-line entry system has been fixed!

Sorry about the confusion, all...

Also, as an FYI (for those who are interested)...the junior team events on Saturday have nothing to do with qualifying for our National Teams. Those events all start on Monday.

Again, I apologize for the miscommunication. I hope to see LOTS of people playing in the TEAMS event!
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Late fee starts tomorrow for you!  You can't win if you don't enter.


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Presently 621 entries - Projected 800+

39 states represented

Final Registration Deadline May 31

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Presently 644 entries - Projected 800+

40 states represented

Final Registration Deadline May 31

Can you guess the states not represented ?

Can you guess the final # of entries ?
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My guess is 745.
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Maine, Vermont, West Virgina not repped.

812 total entries.
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Originally posted by Odie Odie wrote:

Maine, Vermont, West Virgina not repped.
812 total entries.


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It was a guess.
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Where are you getting 812?  I only see 656 as of this morning   (There are currently 656 entries for the 2017 US Nationals, July 3 through 8 in Las Vegas, NV.)

And don't get me wrong, I would love for the number to be super high, I care less about the guess...
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Originally posted by mycuzinvinny mycuzinvinny wrote:

Where are you getting 812?  I only see 656 as of this morning   (There are currently 656 entries for the 2017 US Nationals, July 3 through 8 in Las Vegas, NV.)

And don't get me wrong, I would love for the number to be super high, I care less about the guess...

Same place where you got 745 from. LOL It is Odie's guess in response to LUCKYLOOP's post. 

 
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LOL, I guess so Wacko
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I may have missed it, but which playing hall is being used? 
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Originally posted by benfb benfb wrote:

I may have missed it, but which playing hall is being used? 


Not sure, call their toll free number to find out.
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QQ: My rating is updated since registration. Which will be used in seeding? The updated one or the one at registration time?
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Originally posted by acong acong wrote:

QQ: My rating is updated since registration. Which will be used in seeding? The updated one or the one at registration time?


Your updated rating will be used for seeding.
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Originally posted by benfb benfb wrote:

I may have missed it, but which playing hall is being used? 


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Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

Originally posted by benfb benfb wrote:

I may have missed it, but which playing hall is being used? 


C 3 & 4

Yes, I wrote to Gordon in the meanwhile and he was kind enough to let me know this.  These are the central halls used in most prior years.  Last December was N 3 & 4, the north halls nearest the Westgate.
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Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

Originally posted by acong acong wrote:

QQ: My rating is updated since registration. Which will be used in seeding? The updated one or the one at registration time?


Your updated rating will be used for seeding.
Ratings from June 8th will be used for seeding purposes.
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Presently 669 entries

Might not make 700

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