Alex Table Tennis - MyTableTennis.NET Homepage
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Donic Bluestorm Z2
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

tabletennis11.com
Forum Home Forum Home > Equipment > Equipment

Donic Bluestorm Z2

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
ghostzen View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: 08/15/2010
Location: UK
Status: Offline
Points: 367
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ghostzen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Donic Bluestorm Z2
    Posted: 06/06/2017 at 12:20pm
Just had the new Donic Bluestorm Z2 arrive in black 2.1 and thought I would pop up a quick few photos before I went for a hit with it.

Mine weighs in at 68g on the scales. There's a bit of a booster type smell once the packet in open. The topsheet has good grip similar to M1/M2 I think but when pressed seems softer and springy. The sponge feels quite a bit like my Barracuda to be honest. I'm no tester mind so take that for what it is.

I normally play Donic Barracuda 2.1 both sides on a Donic OTC but at the moment I am using an older Wood hinoki blade. Hoping to move to S5 or S7 if I can make my mind up.... or Rich says buy this one its tons better than the other!

I'm not a two winged looper.... but more of a driving topspin player who stays close and mid distance. Counter loops, Topspin drives and blocks are important as well as good touch/bite on service and return.

Hopefully Andysmith will do his magic with a proper review when I get it over to him in a week or so but take my ramblings for what they are.

here's the photos.. Cheers



Back to Top
DreiZ View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Avatar

Joined: 06/01/2009
Location: New York, US
Status: Offline
Points: 2087
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DreiZ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/06/2017 at 12:53pm
Z2 is on sale at tt11, how perfect!
Samsonov Stratus Carbon AN 81g
Evolution EL-S 2.2mm
Just a touch of booster
Back to Top
ghostzen View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: 08/15/2010
Location: UK
Status: Offline
Points: 367
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ghostzen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/06/2017 at 1:02pm
Blimey I didn't know mine came from somewhere else.. could be a good or bad omen that
Back to Top
Hans Regenkurt View Drop Down
Silver Member
Silver Member
Avatar

Joined: 08/12/2005
Location: Germany
Status: Offline
Points: 627
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hans Regenkurt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/06/2017 at 1:40pm
Looking forward to your review as I cancelled an order for a Z2 to get me a Z3 for the BH.

I have a Z1 and a Z3 on the way but it will take about two weeks for them to arrive.


Edited by Hans Regenkurt - 06/06/2017 at 3:26pm
Back to Top
ghostzen View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: 08/15/2010
Location: UK
Status: Offline
Points: 367
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ghostzen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/06/2017 at 7:13pm
First session tonight and there was good and bad.


Nice control when blocking. I was able to take take heavy shots and fast strokes and basically put them where i wanted. Nice rubber for that.

Really good grip when driving and topspin looping in the knockup first off. Spin Generation is definitely a touch above the old gen rubbers like Bluefire for me.

A nice pop when digging the ball into the topsheet on harder strokes at the table or just off it. really does produce excellent speed and dip in the ball.

3 point forehands were powerful at the table drop off and timing had to be spot on as the arc was lower than my barracuda and sometimes a little tricky to judge.

Backhand loop was strong, safe and consistant. Backhand punch the same. The ball really comes over with a flat flight off the punch which i liked.

serve drills were good. I was able to keep the serves tight and with bite on the rubber get a nice short ball.

The following forehand opener off serve was easy with spin and a bit harder and felt slightly unreliable with power and spin. I had to be spot on with it. Once you commit and are in the right position with arm and body set you will make a good power stroke. Being off on timing there's little room for error mind.

Serve return with backhand opener was much better and easier. The topsheet grip and pace make it lots better for me to open with both spin and pace.

Picking up short serves were cracking with the bluestorm on the backhand. I could happily flick hard with spin and develop a strong shot from the off.

Counter looping at the table was really steady. I could take an incoming stroke and play a shorter fast stoke safely. Add lots of power and things become a little tricky again mind.

Loop to loop. Drop back to mid distance and the uncertain and low linier angle of the ball coming off the racket really made it hard for me. I found it tricky to say the least. My Barracuda is safe high throw and I'm able to really put power behind the ball and keep arc. The Bluestorm didn't feel that way.

A few of the guys I practice with were keen to have a hit and found the ball dropping into the net sometimes without a real reason. Everyone was kind of checking the rubber to see why.

The more I play with this type of rubber the more I know why I changed to barracuda....

Bluestorm is a step forward in generation 100% for that. Everything is a bit better than before especially if you use it on the backhand side. Is it love at first sight for me.. no not this time.

BTW We played with both the NP, XSF and the Joola flash balls and it didn't make a great deal of difference to be honest.





Back to Top
slevin View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member


Joined: 03/15/2012
Location: USA
Status: Offline
Points: 2971
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote slevin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/06/2017 at 7:21pm
Good review, thanks.

From pip structure, it seems like Donic's version of the Rasanter V47 (though I may be off here).
Back to Top
ghostzen View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: 08/15/2010
Location: UK
Status: Offline
Points: 367
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ghostzen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/06/2017 at 7:54pm
I've had a quick check and yes I think that makes sense as well. I wonder if the different brands all have a slightly different flavours so to speak of the same gen rubbers. interesting to see how the others brands flavours differs or improves on things.

Edited by ghostzen - 06/06/2017 at 7:55pm
Back to Top
kurokami View Drop Down
Gold Member
Gold Member
Avatar

Joined: 11/08/2012
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1160
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kurokami Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/07/2017 at 12:07am
tealstorm

Edited by kurokami - 06/07/2017 at 12:51am
Viscaria / T05 / T80
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65345&KW=&title=feedback-kurokami
Back to Top
SmackDAT View Drop Down
Gold Member
Gold Member
Avatar

Joined: 01/01/2012
Location: London
Status: Online
Points: 1315
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SmackDAT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/07/2017 at 12:58pm
ghost, maybe it could have been gluing problems and not properties of the rubber? That sponge look so porous it would absorb a lot of glue.

Or was it that it was low throw that put everyone off?
Blade undetermined
H3 Neo
T05
Back to Top
ghostzen View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: 08/15/2010
Location: UK
Status: Offline
Points: 367
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ghostzen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/07/2017 at 3:06pm

It was unfortunately the rubber Smack for me. I tried it on a couple of blades in the end. Had it on a TB ALC, Donic Crest and what’s left of my OTC. Everyone who had a good go with it felt the same. As I didn’t want to come across that I hated it…Which I don’t actually. It’s a very good new gen backhand rubber I think.  It shines on being able to pick short balls and opening with spin.Everything is pretty solid for the backhand.

Like everything one thing works for one person doesn’t always work for another. The throw is low for me compared to the rubber I normally play.

I’m hoping to hit with the Z1 shortly to see if the firmer hardness is better.

Back to Top
slevin View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member


Joined: 03/15/2012
Location: USA
Status: Offline
Points: 2971
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote slevin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/07/2017 at 3:14pm
Yes, if you are used to Baracuda, you should have chosen to buy the Z1 for comparison instead. Not particularly due to the firmness but the pip structure.

Edited by slevin - 06/07/2017 at 3:15pm
Back to Top
ghostzen View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: 08/15/2010
Location: UK
Status: Offline
Points: 367
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ghostzen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/07/2017 at 3:17pm
I have both just tested the Z2 first
Back to Top
jk92 View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: 09/29/2015
Location: Toronto
Status: Offline
Points: 181
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jk92 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/07/2017 at 11:03pm
I'm an Acuda Blue p2 user and was kinda scared off by the 47.5 hardness, is it not as hard as it seems? I definitely want to use it on the backhand of a penhold, but I haven't had good luck with previous gen 47.5 hardness rubbers on my bh
DHS Hurricane 3 Neo FH
Acuda P2 BH
Stiga Offensive Classic Carbon Penhold
Back to Top
SmackDAT View Drop Down
Gold Member
Gold Member
Avatar

Joined: 01/01/2012
Location: London
Status: Online
Points: 1315
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SmackDAT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/08/2017 at 2:50pm
Originally posted by jk92 jk92 wrote:

I'm an Acuda Blue p2 user and was kinda scared off by the 47.5 hardness, is it not as hard as it seems? I definitely want to use it on the backhand of a penhold, but I haven't had good luck with previous gen 47.5 hardness rubbers on my bh
Bluestorm Z3?

Or a single layer of booster should soften the rubber up nicely
Blade undetermined
H3 Neo
T05
Back to Top
kurokami View Drop Down
Gold Member
Gold Member
Avatar

Joined: 11/08/2012
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1160
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kurokami Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/17/2017 at 10:10pm
is it blue or is it teal? ttspin.de makes it look blue.
Viscaria / T05 / T80
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65345&KW=&title=feedback-kurokami
Back to Top
slevin View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member


Joined: 03/15/2012
Location: USA
Status: Offline
Points: 2971
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote slevin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/21/2017 at 2:34pm
TT11 have made available for us 1 sheet each off the Z1, Z2 and Z3 available for testing that shall be circulated around for interested members - you would have to mail it to the next guy in the list. You would have to post a review here:

Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.313 seconds.
Mark all posts as read :: Delete cookies set by this forum

Cookies and JavaScript must be enabled on your web browser in order to use this forum


Copyright © 2003-2013 MyTableTennis.NET - All Rights Reserved. Disclaimer