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May be individual round robin event, rather than team event, will be more interesting.
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so teams allow replace players? how many players they can replace? or it unlimited?
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really don't understand Kill Zone thing. doesn't matter how good you play and what score, even if 3:1 and you basically wont the match, you enter to kill zone and if your opponent first get 5 points he won. What point to work hard and try to score points before you entered to kill zone?
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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

really don't understand Kill Zone thing. doesn't matter how good you play and what score, even if 3:1 and you basically wont the match, you enter to kill zone and if your opponent first get 5 points he won. What point to work hard and try to score points before you entered to kill zone?

1.  First of all, it is a team event.

2.  The point of the kill zone is to have a game when there isn't enough time to complete one to 11 and to avoid a lousy score like 1-0 or 3-0 resulting in someone getting credit for a game.  The kill zone only counts for one game, and in the case you described, the score will be 3-2 and the individual match winner is still the person that has 3 pts, but the kill zone gives both players something to play for given the potential importance to the individual game score and the definite importance to the overall match score.


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Some people still believe, with a childish naivete, that the actors play the game to please the public. Nothing of the kind. They're just seeking more profit.
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

really don't understand Kill Zone thing. doesn't matter how good you play and what score, even if 3:1 and you basically wont the match, you enter to kill zone and if your opponent first get 5 points he won. What point to work hard and try to score points before you entered to kill zone?


1.  First of all, it is a team event.

2.  The point of the kill zone is to have a game when there isn't enough time to complete one to 11 and to avoid a lousy score like 1-0 or 3-0 resulting in someone getting credit for a game.  The kill zone only counts for one game, and in the case you described, the score will be 3-2 and the individual match winner is still the person that has 3 pts, but the kill zone gives both players something to play for given the potential importance to the individual game score and the definite importance to the overall match score.



on match Wang Chuqin - TB, WC was leading 3:1 and he lost match only because he lost in Kill Zone. so what was point winning 3 games? you could play relax and losing 0:4 but work hard on Kill Zone and win match.

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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

really don't understand Kill Zone thing. doesn't matter how good you play and what score, even if 3:1 and you basically wont the match, you enter to kill zone and if your opponent first get 5 points he won. What point to work hard and try to score points before you entered to kill zone?


1.  First of all, it is a team event.

2.  The point of the kill zone is to have a game when there isn't enough time to complete one to 11 and to avoid a lousy score like 1-0 or 3-0 resulting in someone getting credit for a game.  The kill zone only counts for one game, and in the case you described, the score will be 3-2 and the individual match winner is still the person that has 3 pts, but the kill zone gives both players something to play for given the potential importance to the individual game score and the definite importance to the overall match score.



on match Wang Chuqin - TB, WC was leading 3:1 and he lost match only because he lost in Kill Zone. so what was point winning 3 games? you could play relax and losing 0:4 but work hard on Kill Zone and win match.


Timo was credited with 2 game wins. WC got 3 game wins. So he won the match 3-2. The kill zone game is only worth 1 point. So if it was 4/0 going into the kill zone, the most the 0 guy could leave with is 4/1 score. 
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Originally posted by obesechopper obesechopper wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

really don't understand Kill Zone thing. doesn't matter how good you play and what score, even if 3:1 and you basically wont the match, you enter to kill zone and if your opponent first get 5 points he won. What point to work hard and try to score points before you entered to kill zone?


1.  First of all, it is a team event.

2.  The point of the kill zone is to have a game when there isn't enough time to complete one to 11 and to avoid a lousy score like 1-0 or 3-0 resulting in someone getting credit for a game.  The kill zone only counts for one game, and in the case you described, the score will be 3-2 and the individual match winner is still the person that has 3 pts, but the kill zone gives both players something to play for given the potential importance to the individual game score and the definite importance to the overall match score.



on match Wang Chuqin - TB, WC was leading 3:1 and he lost match only because he lost in Kill Zone. so what was point winning 3 games? you could play relax and losing 0:4 but work hard on Kill Zone and win match.



Timo was credited with 2 game wins. WC got 3 game wins. So he won the match 3-2. The kill zone game is only worth 1 point. So if it was 4/0 going into the kill zone, the most the 0 guy could leave with is 4/1 score. 


No. WC didn't win match 3:2. Does the point. Player who won kill zone won the match
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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by obesechopper obesechopper wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

really don't understand Kill Zone thing. doesn't matter how good you play and what score, even if 3:1 and you basically wont the match, you enter to kill zone and if your opponent first get 5 points he won. What point to work hard and try to score points before you entered to kill zone?


1.  First of all, it is a team event.

2.  The point of the kill zone is to have a game when there isn't enough time to complete one to 11 and to avoid a lousy score like 1-0 or 3-0 resulting in someone getting credit for a game.  The kill zone only counts for one game, and in the case you described, the score will be 3-2 and the individual match winner is still the person that has 3 pts, but the kill zone gives both players something to play for given the potential importance to the individual game score and the definite importance to the overall match score.



on match Wang Chuqin - TB, WC was leading 3:1 and he lost match only because he lost in Kill Zone. so what was point winning 3 games? you could play relax and losing 0:4 but work hard on Kill Zone and win match.



Timo was credited with 2 game wins. WC got 3 game wins. So he won the match 3-2. The kill zone game is only worth 1 point. So if it was 4/0 going into the kill zone, the most the 0 guy could leave with is 4/1 score. 


No. WC didn't win match 3:2. Does the point. Player who won kill zone won the match


There's no such thing as a match win. All that matters are the number of games you win. If you lose four and win one your team gets one point.
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Originally posted by WeebleWobble WeebleWobble wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by obesechopper obesechopper wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

really don't understand Kill Zone thing. doesn't matter how good you play and what score, even if 3:1 and you basically wont the match, you enter to kill zone and if your opponent first get 5 points he won. What point to work hard and try to score points before you entered to kill zone?


1.  First of all, it is a team event.

2.  The point of the kill zone is to have a game when there isn't enough time to complete one to 11 and to avoid a lousy score like 1-0 or 3-0 resulting in someone getting credit for a game.  The kill zone only counts for one game, and in the case you described, the score will be 3-2 and the individual match winner is still the person that has 3 pts, but the kill zone gives both players something to play for given the potential importance to the individual game score and the definite importance to the overall match score.



on match Wang Chuqin - TB, WC was leading 3:1 and he lost match only because he lost in Kill Zone. so what was point winning 3 games? you could play relax and losing 0:4 but work hard on Kill Zone and win match.



Timo was credited with 2 game wins. WC got 3 game wins. So he won the match 3-2. The kill zone game is only worth 1 point. So if it was 4/0 going into the kill zone, the most the 0 guy could leave with is 4/1 score. 


No. WC didn't win match 3:2. Does the point. Player who won kill zone won the match


There's no such thing as a match win. All that matters are the number of games you win. If you lose four and win one your team gets one point.

There is a $1,000 incentive for winning the individual matchup and WCQ won it over TB.  Pilgrim just doesn't want anyone to tell him how it rally works.
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:


There is a $1,000 incentive for winning the individual matchup and WCQ won it over TB.  Pilgrim just doesn't want anyone to tell him how it rally works.

Certainly is an interesting fellow... 
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This may be related to piligrim's question.

In an ITTF sanctioned tournament, a player gets beat by 4-0 or 4-3, makes no difference.
The player gets knocked out.

In T2APAC league, a player gets beat 4-0 is far worse than gets beat by 4-3.
A player plays several different players, and they keep a running total of "games won" and "games lost."
The goal is to win as many games as possible and lose as fewer games as possible --- that affect the player's individual standing and its team's standing. Ultimately that affects prize money.

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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

There is a $1,000 incentive for winning the individual matchup and WCQ won it over TB.  Pilgrim just doesn't want anyone to tell him how it rally works.


then why WCQ was looks disappointing and TB was looks happy?
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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

then why WCQ was looks disappointing and TB was looks happy?

Because by winning the last set, TB brought 2 points to his team and WCQ only 3 (2-3),
instead of just 1 point and 4 points for WCQ if he had lost the last set (1-4)

So... big difference especially considering the score between the 2 teams was tied at this moment (8-8),
and so it could have been a 1 game difference (10-11) or a 3 games difference (9-12)  before the last match... 

And actually, TB's team won at the end 13-12 cause Yang Haeun won her match 3-1 against Cheng I Ching... Shocked (very probably would had lost if TB lost that last set against WCT... Stern Smile)
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I haven't really followed this, but the format reminds me of World Team Tennis in the US, a semi-serious summer league featuring some top players, both male and female.
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Two surprises:

Chen Chien-An did so well while Shang Kun did so poorly.
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The third round is coming tomorrow.
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allo, please do not excite people unnecesssarily. LOL
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Can not find the links for team fixture 13 and 14.
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Try its facebook homepage : T2APAC
Details are there.

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Try its facebook homepage : T2APAC
Details are there.
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Tried it there, but no links to watch team fixtures 13 & 14.
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I am not able to locate any other links but try watching live on Youtube.
Team Fixture 13 :Team Persson v Team Rossi ; 2pm local Malaysian time, 2nd August 2017
Team Fixture 14 : Team Maze v Team JJ ; 7pm local Malaysian time, 2nd August 2017
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`Are we watching 'live' telecast on Youtube now ?

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Morning session. Team Fixture 13, August 2, 2017.

Ovtcharov did lost to Mizutani, Dima has got a good thrashing.
You always need a composure of mind to beat Mizutani,


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MONEY, MONEY, MONEEY.... a catchy Sweden ABBA pop-music hit from 70's    


An amusement far better than watching the play, I have now got a new amusement -- a counting of the money as earned by each of the players by now. It is very easy to do.

1 game won earns you USD 1000    
and 1 point won is worth of USD 50.


MEN'S LEADERBOARD (as present by now).

1. Dima Ovtcharov   games won 19 x 1000 $
                           points won   270 x 50 $
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                          Total earnings 20,350 $

2.Chen Chen AN

3. Alex Shibaev
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Timo Boll looks weird with a bandana
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T2APAC it is all about money. It all looks like a gambling den. I'm gettin disinterested to watch.


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Wow, professional sports people making money...this is just outrageous!!!

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T2APAC it is all about money. It all looks like a gambling den. I'm gettin disinterested to watch.




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' T2APAC it is all about money. It all looks like a gambling den. I'm gettin disinterested to watch. '
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  You are jealous.

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