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    Posted: 07/04/2017 at 1:40am
Hi guys,

I was wondering if my viscaria is fake. Can anyone help me out? Here r some pictures. I contacted butterfly US and they said its in their records. However can not gurantee it's legitimacy 
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THe serial number is in their records that is.
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A picture of the face.
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If its in their records it's real.   I have never seen a tag be off like that on a Butterfly but I guess anyone can have a bad day.
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Only thing that's really off is the metal tag at thea bottom but everything else looks ok. "Perfomance" (wrong spelling) is definitely a thing with genuine Viscaria blades. Only the super new ones have it spelled correctly.
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Usually with the older viscarias you can see if it's real if it has the spelling mistake, but with the newer ones they fixed it. But for most viscarias the trademarks are 1. Spelling error 2. Letters should by in a line from top to bottom at the end 3. Handle should have 5 colors in the wood (dark, bright, blue, bright, dark)
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Looks legit to me.

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Thanks so much for ur replies guys!

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I think it is real too.  Agree about the off-center silver tag being odd, but stuff happens.

It is clearly well-used so someone must like it.
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Suggest to check blade peak frequency when hitting the ball.
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thanks all! i was concerned until now. 
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Typical counterfeit Viscaria.

The OP got it online from a Netherland user.

Edited by zeio - 07/04/2017 at 10:49pm
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g
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Again I would suggest to test its frequency response to the ball. If it is between 1450-1500, it might be a genuine or a "good" fake. Smile

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While I have owned a lot of Viscarias, I would take Zeio's conclusion seriously. 
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Originally posted by jpenmaster jpenmaster wrote:

If its in their records it's real.   I have never seen a tag be off like that on a Butterfly but I guess anyone can have a bad day.


Yeah, the silver tag being off by that much is very, very disturbing. I would expect something like that from a non-Japan made BTY blade and even those usually have good workmanship. Also, just to play devil's advocate, can't a counterfeiter just print a known valid serial number on a fake blade? To the OP, I have no definitive conclusion just to be clear.
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I own a fake Viscaria signed by our National champion. It´s that close to the original that nobody realizes it´s a fake. Quality is 100% same as real BTY, it has nothing to do with  that  fake  posted before, i cant see any differences between the real and my fake apart from the mispellings texts. 
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Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:

I own a fake Viscaria signed by our National champion. It´s that close to the original that nobody realizes it´s a fake. Quality is 100% same as real BTY, it has nothing to do with  that  fake  posted before, i cant see any differences between the real and my fake apart from the mispellings texts. 
How do you know it's a fake then? Sounds like yours is real
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I only knowingly played with one fake Viscaria a clubmate had. It played nohning like a real one. But there may be different qualities of fakes.
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From the fake blades I've seen in Asia it's always been 100% obvious when a blade was fake to anyone that had seen 2 or 3 real butterfly blades.
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I feel that my viscaria absorbs more power than other ones I own. The other ones I own seem to have more power, even tho they r the same weight. 
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Originally posted by Simon_plays Simon_plays wrote:

Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:

I own a fake Viscaria signed by our National champion. It´s that close to the original that nobody realizes it´s a fake. Quality is 100% same as real BTY, it has nothing to do with  that  fake  posted before, i cant see any differences between the real and my fake apart from the mispellings texts. 
How do you know it's a fake then? Sounds like yours is real


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What misspelling?
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I bet he means the word "PERFOMANCE" but genuine Viscaria is known to have it misspelled for years. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/10/2017 at 10:37am
I was waiting for him to say that so I could point out that except for new hologram versions that is a criterion for a real one. On the other hand they were like that for so long counterfeiters know that.
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Where can I buy the fake "Butefly"? That is my dream blade.
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If this is genuine why the Butterfly Logo position at the end of the handle looks incorrect in the middle. 
And J.T.T.A.A. text is too below. Sorry if I'm wrong.


Edited by AntSj00 - 07/27/2017 at 6:06am
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