When are we getting Orange Balls?

Why use orange training balls when Tournaments use white ?

LUCKYLOOP wrote: Why use orange training balls when Tournaments use white ?

Couldn't agree more that orange balls are much easier to see.  This is also why I preferred them.

I hate them....hopefully never . Plastic balls = sh... Plastic orange balls = big sh....

I can see why they are not used in pro tournaments were lighting conditions are ideal. Amateurs often have to play in conditions where orange balls can help. Where I play white is best. But this is not not the case everywhere. In fact you could use any ITTF approved ball in a USATT tournament I believe, and orange ones were approved.

The ITTF should approve optic yellow colored balls, easier to see than orange.

I feel like we're ignoring that the two tone balls have been used. Why can't the orange material from the two tone ball be used for the entire ball?

Egghead wrote: GeneralSpecific wrote: I feel like we're ignoring that the two tone balls have been used. Why can't the orange material from the two tone ball be used for the entire ball? I read somewhere that the two tone ball manufacturer wanted to have the 3* / 2*  orange balls too. Must be ITTF

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GeneralSpecific wrote: Egghead wrote: GeneralSpecific wrote: I feel like we're ignoring that the two tone balls have been used. Why can't the orange material from the two tone ball be used for the entire ball? I read somewhere that the two tone ball manufacturer wanted to have the 3* / 2*  orange balls too. Must be ITTF  The conspiracy dives deeper

Baal wrote: GeneralSpecific wrote: I feel like we're ignoring that the two tone balls have been used. Why can't the orange material from the two tone ball be used for the entire ball? Those were horrible cellulose acetate 40+ balls that I suspect the manufacturers want to stop making in any case.  We are awaiting ABS balls in orange.

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Yes there may be some plastic balls in orange now....but look at exactly what they are.....

They are not Nittaku Premium nor DHS D40 quality....or close.  



The process to use the dye will change the outcome of the ball. Just like many other formulations like rubber color.  Ever notice how sometimes top sheets on black rubbers are just slightly different in some aspects compared to red rubbers in the same exact type?  This is because some rubbers are more natural and some more synthetic....then add dye to the formulation......possibilities of differences are now there!  

Also, they do not want to waste money on something that is a low % of importance to the sport over all.  They need to stabilize any possible needs for ball changes now.  They are hopefully close in this, but who knows.  I just think in this regard, that the low low cost of the new DHS D40 balls in a clue to the fact that the industry is getting close.  But even if it is only a few manufactures that have it down now.....the rest fall in line super quickly since actual manufacturing is isolated to a small amount of factories that will just re-brand the balls anyway. 

I do hope they are soon to get out a D40 in orange.  There are several places they will help as the court and or backdrops of the courts are hard to use a white ball with. 




Edited by Rich215 - 07/09/2017 at 8:52am

browsing the yinhe website i found this:

Are there any pong tables that are jet black?  I think that would be pretty awesome and camera friendly.  Dark red floor, jet black table.

icontek wrote: beeray1 wrote: I haven't frequented this forum much the past couple years like I used to. Maybe I missed something. How is it that we've had the plastic balls this long, and still don't have orange ones?  i think you misspelled "round". All kidding aside, we have at least 4 balls right now. Why do you want to open that potential to eight different balls?   (it likely would, because pigmentation changes material properties like hardness)? 1) Nittaku Premiums (expensive pretenders to the celluloid style) 1) German balls (loud, obnoxiously broken sound) 2) Chinese seamless balls (lightweight, spinless, great for hitting) 3) Chinese seamed (what we've all been waiting for? reasonable price and quality?) Everyone one of these balls plays significantly different. So much so that unmarked, most decent players could tell you after a few hits.  There is more difference (sound, spin, surface texture, bounce height) between any of those styles of balls than there was between a decent 2* training ball and a Nittaku Premium in celluloid. So before they make an orange ball, they need to be able to make a single ball with which the sport should be played. This version of economic darwinism has gone on for more than 4 years and seems excessive.  Who knew that table tennis was an exclusive beta testing program that required pay to play?