DHS PF4 New

Hello everyone.

Edited by al_111 - 07/14/2017 at 8:02am

The old pf4 as I knew it was very tacky, slow, super hard sponge. I haven't tried it in 15 years though

It's an excellent rubber! Hardness over 39 degree, slightly tacky, very grippy topsheet, and the New sponge is extremely elastic and boosts very well. Throw angle is medium. Is rather slow, slower than H3 when looping, but due to new sponge quick attack is fast and deadly. Control is also excellent. On balsa blades you can play opening loop with follow up smashing and on faster wooden flexy blades it will be slow but very secure looping machine. Only downside is that the topsheet wears out quickly. But will still last half a year vor so. All in all a more balanced version of H3.

Still on sale on eacheng for 4$ where I bought it.

Edited by Hozuki - 07/14/2017 at 10:28am

I used them on entirely different blades so I cannot make a fair comparison. But if you insist, I would say the sponges can be equally fast, but pf4 topsheet performs better handling low forces because smaller pimples while it gets outperformed by h3 when handling high forces. For spinny opening loops maybe pf4 is better but on countertops surely h3 offers better spin and stability. Well it should make sense if you think about it, pf4 is a classic topsheet made for 38mm ball (imagine quick pendhold close table loop and follow up smash style) so no wonder its topsheet can take damage trying to handle a much bigger ball. It really depends on your style and level, I have seen chinese shops label it as easy training version of h3, and I agree, excellent for training proper strokes and for better control but in the end you still should upgrade either to h2 or h3, depening on whether you want lower or higher throw. Maybe H8 for same throw. Have not tried it yet.

@al_111

Saw it in the store labelled PF4 40+.

Marketed for the 40+ ball. Excited to try this if it's the same slow hard sponge + control.

Edited by HuLimei - 07/15/2017 at 5:30am

The ITTF LARC shows PF4 as losing its approval as of 30 June 2018. But it also shows an approved 004 PF4 and a 014 PF4-1. Does anyone know what this means?

BTW, this new PF4 was slower than H3 (as expected), significantly softer and did not react well enough to boosting (at least, with FTL).

Did you try DHS PF4-50 rubber? How does it compare to red label DHS PF4?

PF4-50 durable all round rubber value for money. Good if paired with fast blade to increase power. Only drawback the rubber curved a lot when the glue effect die off and therefore difficult to stick evenly on the blade especially near the edges of the blade

The last PF4 I got was in a red package.  It was soft, light, and not really sticky at all.  Reminded me of flextra or something like that.

Can anyone explain the pips difference to h3 h2 h8 and Pf4?  I ordered the red package for $12 aud delivered just because its so dam cheap and I want to try boosting the absolute hell out of it.  

Edited by bozbrisvegas - 09/07/2022 at 6:19am