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i didnt find any reviews either. can someone send a link to a japanese forum maybe there we will read something with auto translate.
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Originally posted by Halon X Halon X wrote:

I also waiting for an online review since it released last year, i found none :( 
hoping they release a large handle version too.

After the normal (aka small handle) is released it usually takes at least 2 years until they release the LG handle version. For a premium price you can ask for a Nittaku custom blade on iruiru. Or you can ask someone who knows how to do it to change the handle.
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Originally posted by arg0 arg0 wrote:

Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:

OMG I've been waiting this for ages. Now my ej virus was healed :(

I bet in a year or so they will rename it Violin Outer Carbon and release an Inner Carbon.

This post of mine was from 9/9/17.
It seems I was right (or just lucky): Violin Inner Carbon was released in September 2018:
Anyone had a chance to test it?


I also waiting for an online review since it released last year, i found none :( 
hoping they release a large handle version too.
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Originally posted by arg0 arg0 wrote:

Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:

OMG I've been waiting this for ages. Now my ej virus was healed :(

I bet in a year or so they will rename it Violin Outer Carbon and release an Inner Carbon.

This post of mine was from 9/9/17.
It seems I was right (or just lucky): Violin Inner Carbon was released in September 2018:
Anyone had a chance to test it?



Edited by arg0 - 10/07/2019 at 8:22pm
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After initially really struggling with this blade (basically finding it amazing at looping from mid distance, but very unpredicatable for everything else), I have changed to lighter rubbers (Stiga Mantra S and Nexy Karis M in 2.0) and added a grip tape. The total weight is now 182g.
This has really transformed how it plays, it is now much better balanced, which seems to have sorted out the issues I was having and it now plays much more like how I imagined when I bought it.

I now have a dilemma, do stick with it, knowing that I am probably going to be limited to lighter rubbers in the future or look to sell or trade it whilst it is still like new?

With the current trend for thinner topsheets, I think I might be OK
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I am done testing that beauty. I am going back to all wood Violin so I can play instead of trying to finish anything off in a hurry. Yes, that's what carbon blades makes me do: rush; then my game goes to limbo! Wink
I am selling one of my 2 VC right there and it comes with 2 almost new rubbers, R47 and R42, both in 2.0. Thumbs Up

If only it had the large handle and flared, I'd be all over it, like white on rice!
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

be careful a few more dark thoughts like this one and next thing you know you'll play with an Apolonia lol.  

No way: it's composite, it's Butterfly, it's expensive, and I don't like the idea of playing a blade named after someone because I'm still working towards having a blade named after me :o)

Seriously, I've got a gorgeous handmade blade that is built to be an improved Violin that I've played again and again over the last months, wanting to like it at all costs. The feeling is solid and inspires confidence, the control is great, the handle is close to perfect, just... it's a tad more head heavy than I like, and the feeling is more muted. In summary, it's closer to an Acoustic rather than Violin.
This is why, each time after a training session I'm convinced that I can keep it as my main blade, if I play one last set with Arche or Violin, the magic is gone again and I know it's time to sell it.
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I enjoy your live blogging :)
I see you _really_ want VC to work for you.

Personally, I lost a bit of interest in the blade when you wrote "The divine feel of the all wood Violin is gone". That was a hard hit, though it didn't come unexpected: quite the opposite, it's in line with similar impressions that people got from the Acoustic Carbon Outer.

Maybe I should wait a few more years for Nittaku to release Violin Carbon Inner LG (if they ever do), or a 7-ply version of Violin. Or maybe I should simply be happy with Nexy Arche, which is the blade that comes closest so far to a slightly stiffer and faster Violin. It doesn't have the same feeling or the same perfect handle, but somehow something just clicked when I played with it first, and I'm going back to it again and again after having tried other blades.
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Sounds like you are trying hard to make it work, which is a good thing, it's how we reach a new height Smile.  From what described the blade seem to have similar characteristic as the Stiga Offensive Carbon,which I think works best when ream up with medium hard rubber like T05, BF M2, etc...
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Nittaku gets this wrong IMHO: their carbon blades are generally heavy but relatively slow without a great sweetspot.

For example, if I had to use a 90g blade, I would much rather play with a 90g Acoustic than a 90g Acoustic carbon (players normally gravitate to carbon for solidity, bigger sweetspot and more power. Well, a 90g all-wood resolves most of this without the compromise in feel or ball arc thst comes with carbon). Perhaps, this is the sane with Violin / Violin Carbon?
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I also agree but I still think I made several mistakes: playing somebody better, gluing max on both sides. The gap between my play and what I think it is was too big when I chose to try ova max in the fh on a carbon blade; that was childish. I make great shots too but they would never compensate the waste that follow them. Of course the hits were fantastic and looping amateur chops - most of them high but low missiles were coming back sometimes - was effortless with the right relaxed pendulum stroke that I consider the ultimate exercise in terms of efficiency when learning to fh loop: “you can loop chops 20 times relax, you can loop $&@%ING ANYTHING!”...ok back to topic, the 50deg sponge is too hard for my stroke and I am better aware now (i am done with ova btw, a couple soon FS both black, 2.0 1 month and max used 2 hours); the weight was also bad: 90g, tearmender is 6 to 8g (I am generous), it was a bit too much at 196 gr and I compensated holding the paddle close to the neck; there bh driving was super with the R47. My bh loop was just fine I am confident there so no surprises.
Next time I will try the R47 bh and OVA fh both in 2.0 that are on the all wood violin, going easy on the glue. If I can bring the weight down to 188 I’ll be fine.
With the Acoustic Carbon I had a weird experience that is happening again: the sweet spot is less than what I expected but I’m not going to be picky, it does not pretend to be a 102g Schlager. They made a decision about the thickness of the carbon and the breakaway from all wood is not brutal, we’re still in the violin world, of course with a harder feel but we certainly keep the same comfort in areas like blocking and pushing where I did not notice a decline from whatever I do with the all wood counterpart, maybe even an improvement in blocks. They wanted to cover the “new plastic ball era” getting that paddle out but hey! Just in case the 2 all wood are not going anywhere.
I got the additional speed I wanted, it’s very stable, top notch quality, I’ll keep them for a while but h0n1g sure hit it: I did not fall in love and if I make it work it will be a marriage de raison. I am also considering going down to 42 on the bh keeping the 47 for the fh (anybody want to trade a R42 2.0 or max, Black for an OVA black 2.0?”). Until I’ve tried those combos I won’t jump to conclusions.
Please do not take this as a review, more like random rambling in the bus on my way home; also forgive my misspellings, poor grammar and disorganized sentence structure. I did not mean anything malicious.
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Originally posted by icontek icontek wrote:

Originally posted by h0n1g h0n1g wrote:

A blade you don't immediately love is a blade you will never love in my opinion.

I've probably tried over 60 blades and I've never once ended up with one that I didn't immediately take a liking to in the first 10 minutes. No matter if I 'lost' or 'won'.

Just sayin'

So true.

It's the reason the blade collection has gotten smaller over the years.


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Originally posted by h0n1g h0n1g wrote:

A blade you don't immediately love is a blade you will never love in my opinion.

I've probably tried over 60 blades and I've never once ended up with one that I didn't immediately take a liking to in the first 10 minutes. No matter if I 'lost' or 'won'.

Just sayin'


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Originally posted by h0n1g h0n1g wrote:

A blade you don't immediately love is a blade you will never love in my opinion.

I've probably tried over 60 blades and I've never once ended up with one that I didn't immediately take a liking to in the first 10 minutes. No matter if I 'lost' or 'won'.

Just sayin'


I generally agree with your comment above.  I have experienced the same thing, with one exception.

I own a Clipper and never like it (back in the 38 mm celluloid ball era).   Today, in the 40+ plastic ball era, I think Clipper is a really good blade.

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A blade you don't immediately love is a blade you will never love in my opinion.

I've probably tried over 60 blades and I've never once ended up with one that I didn't immediately take a liking to in the first 10 minutes. No matter if I 'lost' or 'won'.

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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I think it’s me not the blade. I need more time with it.

That's pretty much how I'm feeling after a couple of fairly short sessions with it. I don't really want to give it an unfair review because I have not taken to it instantly 
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Well, acoustic carbon is not a better acoustic, so I wouldn't have expected violin carbon to be a better violin. Just tell us how it's different, I'm curious.
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Meh? Really?
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How about spin? You wrote the throw is lower than regular violin, but it's still a 5.3mm blade, so I would expect it to be rather flexible and quite easy to generate spin with. Or is it rather a flat hitters' and blockers' blade?
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Not mine, but I got to hit with a violin carbon today.  EL-S on both sides.  I thought the throw was a bit lower than regular violin with same rubbers, and it was great to hit and block with, but I only played with it for 10 min or so.  Really, I'm just commenting to brag about getting to try it haha.  
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On sale items do not qualify for the 30% or 25% off discount. Sometimes I need to wait until the sale ends to get a better deal. 

I think TT11 should have either the volume discount or the sale price together so people do not need to wait until there is no sale for certain items.
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Originally posted by arg0 arg0 wrote:

Originally posted by Sedis Sedis wrote:

Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

still around $130 at tt11:

I have a hard time understanding the strategy: on sale when it comes out: can somebody comment?


I assume it might vary depending on where you are in the world, but with TT11's % discount scheme the blade at standard price would qualify you for a reasonable discount in any case, add a couple of rubbers (or buy a pair of blades) and you could pay this price even when the blade is not on offer.

This. You can always get expensive blades at about 20-25% discount.
Moreover, tt11 claims they randomly select their weekly specials, so if it's truly random, it could have been coincidence.
Otoh, maybe they want to push a number of blades out early to ensure a number of reviews.
On top of that tt-japan and iruiru also have/had them 20% off even before it was released.


This. I got 3 MX-P's (37 euro each, i.e. 111 euro total) + Omega V tour + acoustic inner carbon (152 euro at tt11), i.e. 305 euro total, for 205 after the 30% and the 10 euro black friday coupon. You always get a great discount, and free shipping if you buy in volume, which makes the smaller schemes better for those willing/able to only buy less / want to try a variety of stuff at different times, instead of just buying say 4 MXP's for 25% off, or  8 evolutions at 30% off.

They also sent me an additional MX-P by accident, I think, probably to do with them thinking i should get a buy 3 get 4, which isn't the case for 2 reasons
a) 30% disc > buy 3 get 4 (=25% disc) which they've noted and prioritized the 30% for consumers
b) Omega was on buy 3 get 4, so i got 4 rubbers from that section anyway, they sent me 5 in actuality.

Hurray for TT11.
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Forgot to mention that the ST version sold out in few days. Maybe they didn't have many in stock.
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