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arg0
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I emailed TT1 and inquired about the dimensions of the ST handle.
The reason is that I am very picky about handle sizes. I stopped playing with regular Violin for a few years because I felt the ST handle was too thin, until Violin LG (L-Size handle) came out. Their reply was:
Interestingly, the handles of regular Violin and Violin carbon appear to be thicker (and rounder) than Violin LG. This does not completely match my own measurements, which are:
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Basquests
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Yeah, the acoustic/violin handles are tiny. Remember that when buying, and possibly wait for the LG version of the Violin Carbon.
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Sedis
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I make it 28mm by 23mm
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I'll get a chance to try it tomorrow. I have been wanting a carbon blade with a harder outer veneer but that is not too stiff and in the off-/off range or a while, so in theory this ticks a lot of boxes for me.
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arg0
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To anyone interested. Violin Carbon ST is out of stock at tt11 and not expected to become available again before the end of the weekly special offer.
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arg0
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I would have snatched 'em up, but for Europe, with taxes, it was more like $162 a piece, so still good but not that great... If you decide to sell one, I'll get it for the price you paid, if you include shipping. |
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arg0
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Sorry if the above image is already overquoted (previous posters, please consider removing it from your quotation, if it's not essential), but I wanted to post it next to an image of regular Violin LG (with Large ST handle). As you can see, regardless of the dimensions, the shape is clearly different: more round-ish on the Violin Carbon (just like regular Violin) and more elongated, with flatter top/bottom surfaces, on the Violin LG: |
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h0n1g
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seems like frequency wise its close to the Acoustic Carbon which isnt too surprising I guess.
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peter79
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I will test and compare to Acoustic inner and outer carbon today, test bouncing with ball.
Edited by peter79 - 12/08/2017 at 3:30am |
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I will order one aswell in the coming weeks, hopefully it plays close to acoustic carbon, which I like but I prefer this handle colors (matches my club colors).
I actually have Acoustic Carbon with MJ handles but its around 92g because of the custom handles I believe. |
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The feel is more solid dan acoustic carbon,speed a bit slower.
My acoustic carbon is 92 gr, violin carbon 91 gr |
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Sedis
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I assume it might vary depending on where you are in the world, but with TT11's % discount scheme the blade at standard price would qualify you for a reasonable discount in any case, add a couple of rubbers (or buy a pair of blades) and you could pay this price even when the blade is not on offer.
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arg0
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This. You can always get expensive blades at about 20-25% discount. Moreover, tt11 claims they randomly select their weekly specials, so if it's truly random, it could have been coincidence. Otoh, maybe they want to push a number of blades out early to ensure a number of reviews. On top of that tt-japan and iruiru also have/had them 20% off even before it was released. |
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Forgot to mention that the ST version sold out in few days. Maybe they didn't have many in stock.
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Basquests
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This. I got 3 MX-P's (37 euro each, i.e. 111 euro total) + Omega V tour + acoustic inner carbon (152 euro at tt11), i.e. 305 euro total, for 205 after the 30% and the 10 euro black friday coupon. You always get a great discount, and free shipping if you buy in volume, which makes the smaller schemes better for those willing/able to only buy less / want to try a variety of stuff at different times, instead of just buying say 4 MXP's for 25% off, or 8 evolutions at 30% off. They also sent me an additional MX-P by accident, I think, probably to do with them thinking i should get a buy 3 get 4, which isn't the case for 2 reasons a) 30% disc > buy 3 get 4 (=25% disc) which they've noted and prioritized the 30% for consumers b) Omega was on buy 3 get 4, so i got 4 rubbers from that section anyway, they sent me 5 in actuality.
Hurray for TT11. |
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On sale items do not qualify for the 30% or 25% off discount. Sometimes I need to wait until the sale ends to get a better deal.
I think TT11 should have either the volume discount or the sale price together so people do not need to wait until there is no sale for certain items.
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Not mine, but I got to hit with a violin carbon today. EL-S on both sides. I thought the throw was a bit lower than regular violin with same rubbers, and it was great to hit and block with, but I only played with it for 10 min or so. Really, I'm just commenting to brag about getting to try it haha.
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arg0
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How about spin? You wrote the throw is lower than regular violin, but it's still a 5.3mm blade, so I would expect it to be rather flexible and quite easy to generate spin with. Or is it rather a flat hitters' and blockers' blade?
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h0n1g
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Where is the report?
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arg0
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Meh? Really?
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arg0
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Well, acoustic carbon is not a better acoustic, so I wouldn't have expected violin carbon to be a better violin. Just tell us how it's different, I'm curious.
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Sedis
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That's pretty much how I'm feeling after a couple of fairly short sessions with it. I don't really want to give it an unfair review because I have not taken to it instantly
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h0n1g
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A blade you don't immediately love is a blade you will never love in my opinion.
I've probably tried over 60 blades and I've never once ended up with one that I didn't immediately take a liking to in the first 10 minutes. No matter if I 'lost' or 'won'. Just sayin'
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I generally agree with your comment above. I have experienced the same thing, with one exception. I own a Clipper and never like it (back in the 38 mm celluloid ball era). Today, in the 40+ plastic ball era, I think Clipper is a really good blade. |
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True for me. |
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Does this mean I put you back on the tester list for BBC
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fatt, Sedis, peter79, et al.
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