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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I asked tt11 on this site if we could start a testing session and I volunteered to conduct it. If it works I will accept applications from USA only but I will gladly make an exception for you. Actually they should send you a couple too to do the same in Europe. Please ask them and I’m sure Slevin and Matt will support you.

As to the testing in Europe: another option could be that, if the blades for the US testing are meant to be returned to TT11, I could organise and continue the testing in Europe with the same blades...
Or, I could indeed organise a separate testing in Europe. But let's see if the US testing goes through, first.
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yes LOL I did not generate much interest so far.
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25% off at TT11 (weekly special)!
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I could not stand it. I ordered 2 st and requested 90g. With such a purchase, all rubbers are 30% down. Thank you for the alert arg0.
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So this is the end of the testing session and we have to keep an eye on the FS section?
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Any reviews on this blade yet?
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I got a couple in the mail and I’ll get them Friday Via DHL. Hoping for custom fées to dissipate in the ether.
I did not want to unglue my current violin setup so I went ahead and bought the same rubbers than now but in max: r47 bh and ova fh. Can’t wait!
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I got a couple in the mail and I’ll get them Friday Via DHL. Hoping for custom fées to dissipate in the ether.
I did not want to unglue my current violin setup so I went ahead and bought the same rubbers than now but in max: r47 bh and ova fh. Can’t wait!

Don't forget to put in your review as soon as you get them so that I can also get them while on sale.
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just get them on sale now; you will always find somebody to buy them at the same price if you do not like them.

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I emailed TT1 and inquired about the dimensions of the ST handle.
The reason is that I am very picky about handle sizes. I stopped playing with regular Violin for a few years because I felt the ST handle was too thin, until Violin LG (L-Size handle) came out.

Their reply was:
  • Violin (ST) handle - 98mm long, 28mm wide, 24mm thick.
  • Violin Carbon (ST) handle - 10cm long, 28mm wide, 24mm thick.
  • Violin LG (ST) handle - 29mm wide, 23mm thick.
I suppose this means that the handle of Violin Carbon is the same as regular Violin.
Interestingly, the handles of regular Violin and Violin carbon appear to be thicker (and rounder) than Violin LG.

This does not completely match my own measurements, which are:
  • Violin regular ST handle is about 26.5 x 23 mm, circumference is 82 mm.
  • Violin LG ST handle is about 28.5 x 23 mm, circumference is 87 mm.
  • Handle length is 100 mm and head size is 149 x 156 mm in both cases.
I would be grateful if one of the first owners of Violin Carbon ST could post dimensions and maybe a picture of the handle butt.


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Yeah, the acoustic/violin handles are tiny. Remember that when buying, and possibly wait for the LG version of the Violin Carbon.


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I make it 28mm by 23mm

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I still find shocking that I could get a couple at $127.53 a piece; for such a new product that so many people are waiting for, the move is eerie. The uncanny offer is still available 3 days later.
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Originally posted by Sedis Sedis wrote:

I make it 28mm by 23mm
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how does it play? bring it on! Tongue


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I make it 28mm by 23mm



how does it play? bring it on! Tongue

I'll get a chance to try it tomorrow. I have been wanting a carbon blade with a harder outer veneer but that is not too stiff and in the off-/off range or a while, so in theory this ticks a lot of boxes for me. 


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To anyone interested. Violin Carbon ST is out of stock at tt11 and not expected to become available again before the end of the weekly special offer.
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I still find shocking that I could get a couple at $127.53 a piece; for such a new product that so many people are waiting for, the move is eerie. The uncanny offer is still available 3 days later.

I would have snatched 'em up, but for Europe, with taxes, it was more like $162 a piece, so still good but not that great...
If you decide to sell one, I'll get it for the price you paid, if you include shipping.
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Originally posted by Sedis Sedis wrote:

Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

Originally posted by Sedis Sedis wrote:

I make it 28mm by 23mm
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how does it play? bring it on! Tongue

I'll get a chance to try it tomorrow. I have been wanting a carbon blade with a harder outer veneer but that is not too stiff and in the off-/off range or a while, so in theory this ticks a lot of boxes for me. 
yep, same here; the regular violin always puts me back on track and I have hopes that this one will be the cherry on the cake, the sword I can swing when I am in shape, we'll see. 
I so hope it's not too far off!
 
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I still find shocking that I could get a couple at $127.53 a piece; for such a new product that so many people are waiting for, the move is eerie. The uncanny offer is still available 3 days later.
 
I would have snatched 'em up, but for Europe, with taxes, it was more like $162 a piece, so still good but not that great...
If you decide to sell one, I'll get it for the price you paid, if you include shipping.
You betcha; I will not advertise it, it will be snatched behind the curtain, if I don't like it that is.



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Originally posted by Sedis Sedis wrote:

I make it 28mm by 23mm

Nittaku Violin Carbon ST handle base


Sorry if the above image is already overquoted (previous posters, please consider removing it from your quotation, if it's not essential), but I wanted to post it next to an image of regular Violin LG (with Large ST handle).
As you can see, regardless of the dimensions, the shape is clearly different: more round-ish on the Violin Carbon (just like regular Violin) and more elongated, with flatter top/bottom surfaces, on the Violin LG:

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Thank you to TT11 for getting me a matching pair of 90 blades. 

In the answer to the email I sent to request those weights, the person wrote they did their best to choose the closest because they were almost sold out. Maybe that's Estonia's version of a disguised xmas gift; the 4 days delivery through DHL and the total absence of custom fees only adds up to the truly awesome shopping experience. YES!

The resonance in the skull test is awesome. The pitch lasts and is harmonious, much more than a regular Violin's. Both of them! they almost are the same, one has pitch a liiiiittle bit higher but they do sound really good; I am awaiting confirmation about that wonderful skull test, whether I am lucky or the ash-carbon-ash-kiri-ash-carbon-ash is a great combo for that. Here is the frequency test: 1356 and 1399 (between 1050 and 1240 for a regular Violin on that table); in terms of frequency, that puts the VCBIO (Violin Carbon Buil-in Outside) in the range of controllable ALC blades or a Vega Pro. The 90 grams might say otherwise on the table. We'll see.






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seems like frequency wise its close to the Acoustic Carbon which isnt too surprising I guess.
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I will test and compare to Acoustic inner and outer carbon today, test bouncing with ball.


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I will order one aswell in the coming weeks, hopefully it plays close to acoustic carbon, which I like but I prefer this handle colors (matches my club colors).
I actually have Acoustic Carbon with MJ handles but its around 92g because of the custom handles I believe.
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The feel is more solid dan acoustic carbon,speed a bit slower.
My acoustic carbon is 92 gr, violin carbon 91 gr





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still around $130 at tt11:

I have a hard time understanding the strategy: on sale when it comes out: can somebody comment?
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still around $130 at tt11:

I have a hard time understanding the strategy: on sale when it comes out: can somebody comment?

I assume it might vary depending on where you are in the world, but with TT11's % discount scheme the blade at standard price would qualify you for a reasonable discount in any case, add a couple of rubbers (or buy a pair of blades) and you could pay this price even when the blade is not on offer.
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Originally posted by Sedis Sedis wrote:

Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

still around $130 at tt11:

I have a hard time understanding the strategy: on sale when it comes out: can somebody comment?


I assume it might vary depending on where you are in the world, but with TT11's % discount scheme the blade at standard price would qualify you for a reasonable discount in any case, add a couple of rubbers (or buy a pair of blades) and you could pay this price even when the blade is not on offer.

This. You can always get expensive blades at about 20-25% discount.
Moreover, tt11 claims they randomly select their weekly specials, so if it's truly random, it could have been coincidence.
Otoh, maybe they want to push a number of blades out early to ensure a number of reviews.
On top of that tt-japan and iruiru also have/had them 20% off even before it was released.
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Forgot to mention that the ST version sold out in few days. Maybe they didn't have many in stock.
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Originally posted by arg0 arg0 wrote:

Originally posted by Sedis Sedis wrote:

Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

still around $130 at tt11:

I have a hard time understanding the strategy: on sale when it comes out: can somebody comment?


I assume it might vary depending on where you are in the world, but with TT11's % discount scheme the blade at standard price would qualify you for a reasonable discount in any case, add a couple of rubbers (or buy a pair of blades) and you could pay this price even when the blade is not on offer.

This. You can always get expensive blades at about 20-25% discount.
Moreover, tt11 claims they randomly select their weekly specials, so if it's truly random, it could have been coincidence.
Otoh, maybe they want to push a number of blades out early to ensure a number of reviews.
On top of that tt-japan and iruiru also have/had them 20% off even before it was released.


This. I got 3 MX-P's (37 euro each, i.e. 111 euro total) + Omega V tour + acoustic inner carbon (152 euro at tt11), i.e. 305 euro total, for 205 after the 30% and the 10 euro black friday coupon. You always get a great discount, and free shipping if you buy in volume, which makes the smaller schemes better for those willing/able to only buy less / want to try a variety of stuff at different times, instead of just buying say 4 MXP's for 25% off, or  8 evolutions at 30% off.

They also sent me an additional MX-P by accident, I think, probably to do with them thinking i should get a buy 3 get 4, which isn't the case for 2 reasons
a) 30% disc > buy 3 get 4 (=25% disc) which they've noted and prioritized the 30% for consumers
b) Omega was on buy 3 get 4, so i got 4 rubbers from that section anyway, they sent me 5 in actuality.

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On sale items do not qualify for the 30% or 25% off discount. Sometimes I need to wait until the sale ends to get a better deal. 

I think TT11 should have either the volume discount or the sale price together so people do not need to wait until there is no sale for certain items.
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