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    Posted: 07/10/2020 at 4:42pm
I glued a B2 38 deg orange sponge prov version to my forehand and I really like it. I feel it has better spin control than H3 Neo, also the surface feels tackier and maybe a bit faster too than 39 deg H3N orange.

I use 37deg H3N on my backhand, and I'm wondering which B2 is the softest. Just by looking at the numbers the 45deg commercial should be the softest, but maybe someone who has tried more than one version could tell me which is the softest.

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for players who are looking for provincial version, it is available in Pingponghouse shop in Amazon. (30  usd)
My feedback : http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=58844&PN=1#726094
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has anyone tried boosting regular B2 with Falco long? If so, would you recommend it and how many layers?
A version of Hurricane 3
A version of Tenergy
A Stiga blade...
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yes, pot should have some effect as well
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You should try pot next time. Some variant that slows time. Those are the best.
We used to make a lot of great music on those haha


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had a couple of beers before playing with B2 BS (on a Feel AX). on the attack the shots were as deadly or even more so but had more feel,control and precision.   the difference was the smoother stroke and softer hands - attributes the better players have more of. the beer didn't help with the footwork though, among other things.
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Originally posted by Fulanodetal Fulanodetal wrote:

Frankly, Im quite happy with the regular version on my BH. 
It has all the gears needed.

On top of that it turning out to have a long life as well.

I just hope they keep making it. 

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You know that once you like a rubber that is reasonably priced "they" are going to stop making it. Its like they read the forums...
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Frankly, Im quite happy with the regular version on my BH. 
It has all the gears needed.

On top of that it turning out to have a long life as well.

I just hope they keep making it. 

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I got 38 which is practically identical.
It's the difference of 1 point nominally on the 'european' scale.

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Originally posted by Lightzy Lightzy wrote:

Originally posted by Hozuki Hozuki wrote:

Sounds to me like you can't deal with the harder sponge. That's what happens when you switch from 45 deg to 50 or more and expect an upgrade...


Consider they're (my b2 and b2pro) are the same hardness (47) I don't think this is the case. But thanks for the feedback. From my experience its the softer sponges that are harder to play with but I guess this is personal preference.


Oh is that so? By pro you still mean provincial version? Provincial version comes in 38, 39, and 40 degree hardness though? So how did you get 47?
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Originally posted by Hozuki Hozuki wrote:

Sounds to me like you can't deal with the harder sponge. That's what happens when you switch from 45 deg to 50 or more and expect an upgrade...


Consider they're (my b2 and b2pro) are the same hardness (47) I don't think this is the case. But thanks for the feedback. From my experience its the softer sponges that are harder to play with but I guess this is personal preference.


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Sounds to me like you can't deal with the harder sponge. That's what happens when you switch from 45 deg to 50 or more and expect an upgrade...
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Originally posted by Lightzy Lightzy wrote:

Ok.

Didn't like the pro version. Used it today for a 3.5 hour session and... neh. I even lost to people I never lose to.

Maybe it's that it's not 'broken in' or whatever, but the lack of control really bothered me. The regular B2 is a very precise tool that you can use for extreme spin. The B2 Pro version, to me, felt like something you can only use if you're a phenomenal player. It's higher throw, faster, a lot less controlled and less spinny. I was having trouble with my serves, it was just weird.

I got a few really amazing topspins out of it when I got the ball just right but.. meh.
I took it off and glued the B2 regular back on.
Miracle rubber, this B2 Smile

I had exactly the same experience. Our league had a brief 2 week or so break before the playoffs due to some provincial/cultural holidays so of course I decided to replace my B2 with Provincial B2, in this time thinking it would be a seamless transition that by the time playoffs started I would be used to the rubber.

I had exactly the same problems. It was super hard to get good spin on serves, it had less control, less tack and I couldn't chop or push underspin well. I lost all the matches I played with it and nearly got us eliminated from the semi final round. I immediately put B2 back and didn't lose a single match from then on forward. I've been on B2 ever since. 


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Ok.

Didn't like the pro version. Used it today for a 3.5 hour session and... neh. I even lost to people I never lose to.

Maybe it's that it's not 'broken in' or whatever, but the lack of control really bothered me. The regular B2 is a very precise tool that you can use for extreme spin. The B2 Pro version, to me, felt like something you can only use if you're a phenomenal player. It's higher throw, faster, a lot less controlled and less spinny. I was having trouble with my serves, it was just weird.

I got a few really amazing topspins out of it when I got the ball just right but.. meh.
I took it off and glued the B2 regular back on.
Miracle rubber, this B2 Smile
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Thanks Tom for the info
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It came packaged much nicer than the regular version.
It's vacuum wrapped, first of all, and there's a very nice kind of 'multi-page' cardboard wrap around the rubber. Cute design.

I can't tell you yet about the short game and all that because I want to use it for at least a week before I'm definite about everything.


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Originally posted by Lightzy Lightzy wrote:

Got, glued and had my first practice with the Battle 2 Pro version today (on my hurricane 301 blade)

Not enough experience and the rubber is sure as hell not broken in yet but:
1) Definitely faster
2) a bit less tacky (still tacky to the extreme though. Just not as ridiculous as the regular version)
3) higher throw, which I did not like (though it makes lifting backspin really a breeze)

As for my first impression, I like it less than the regular version because of the higher throw. It requires slightly different technique and while it's easier to lift backspin, for example, its easier to block back because there's more power but less spin.
I'll try it some more next week and check in


Lightzy can I ask you which packaging this one came in? Is it bouncier in the short game? Thanks
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Got, glued and had my first practice with the Battle 2 Pro version today (on my hurricane 301 blade)

Not enough experience and the rubber is sure as hell not broken in yet but:
1) Definitely faster
2) a bit less tacky (still tacky to the extreme though. Just not as ridiculous as the regular version)
3) higher throw, which I did not like (though it makes lifting backspin really a breeze)

As for my first impression, I like it less than the regular version because of the higher throw. It requires slightly different technique and while it's easier to lift backspin, for example, its easier to block back because there's more power but less spin.
I'll try it some more next week and check in
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Originally posted by Fulanodetal Fulanodetal wrote:

Thanks Tom for the info. I appreciate it!

Ill order from TT11!! Ive ordered from them before, I know I can trust them....

Ali-express....is this a reliable source? Do they sell counterfeit items?

FdT
Ya, it does; it just a taobao agent. Anyway, I highly doubt you can find a fake regular version of 729 Battle II.
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Thanks Tom for the info. I appreciate it!

Ill order from TT11!! Ive ordered from them before, I know I can trust them....

Ali-express....is this a reliable source? Do they sell counterfeit items?



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BTW yeah, with b2 on backhand you can have insane spin on backhand, but for me I prefer speed on the backhand. The wrist gives enough spin as far as I'm concerned. Still, whenever I switch just for fun it's really, really fun :)
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Originally posted by Fulanodetal Fulanodetal wrote:

Can't find the regular version of Battle II. I can only find the provincial. 

What gives? 

Took me so long to find a replacement for Adidas P7, now this?
BTW I love Battle II on my BH. Im producing some explosive shots with Viscaria. Even my coach was impressed!

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TT11 has it
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You can find whatever version you want.
Go on ali-express
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Can't find the regular version of Battle II. I can only find the provincial. 

What gives? 

Took me so long to find a replacement for Adidas P7, now this?
BTW I love Battle II on my BH. Im producing some explosive shots with Viscaria. Even my coach was impressed!

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Just wonder what is your rubber sheet color?

It seems that there are few versions.






BTW, the reviews of www.pingpangwang.com's products are not that good, a little over price Embarrassed
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Originally posted by jk92 jk92 wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:


which version is this one?


There's a popular website in china called http://www.pingpangwang.com/, I believe they got 729 to create a special edition of Battle II provincial for them. I think it's supposed to be tackier and boosted more.


Edit: also interesting, the provincial player edition has a blue sponge, the golden edition has a purple sponge and the pingpangwang edition has a red sponge

any updates?  I used the BS provincial version, it came heavily boosted, for sure faster and more spin than the reg provincial, not enough time to try it in a game


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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:


which version is this one?


There's a popular website in china called http://www.pingpangwang.com/, I believe they got 729 to create a special edition of Battle II provincial for them. I think it's supposed to be tackier and boosted more.


Edit: also interesting, the provincial player edition has a blue sponge, the golden edition has a purple sponge and the pingpangwang edition has a red sponge

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Originally posted by jk92 jk92 wrote:



Not to confuse anyone even more but my special Battle II came in today:

Popular table tennis website pingpangwang special edition
which version is this one?
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Not to confuse anyone even more but my special Battle II came in today:

Popular table tennis website pingpangwang special edition
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