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    Posted: 11/08/2017 at 6:13am
This thread is meant for reviews of Nexy blades when playing with the new 40+ non-celluloid plastic balls.
Also compare with the "old" celluloid ball, if you can.
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There's no need for a thread if there's now review yet... This is just an empty thread without any content, why waste the space and my time? :)
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Originally posted by Fabian1890 Fabian1890 wrote:

There's no need for a thread if there's now review yet... This is just an empty thread without any content, why waste the space and my time? :)

If this thread is not created all the upcoming reviews would probably be on the another thread together with a lot of non related posts. This is just a way to organize the reviews since they will be made by different persons at different moments.
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Plastic balls started in 2014.  It is nearly 2018.  Are there still a lot of people playing with celluloid balls?

I probably started playing with them exclusively earlier than most people, and honestly have pretty much forgotten what celluloid balls were like.

I don't use Nexy blades so won't comment further, but people should probably mention which 40+ balls they are using since it matters a lot.  Cellulose acetate 40+ balls (which are unfortunately still widely used) are completely different from newer ABS balls or seamless balls.
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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

 Cellulose acetate 40+ balls (which are unfortunately still widely used) are completely different from newer ABS balls or seamless balls.

I'm amazed that there are any left.  Just a sideways glace or misplaced mutter can break them.
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Originally posted by Fabian1890 Fabian1890 wrote:

There's no need for a thread if there's now review yet... This is just an empty thread without any content, why waste the space and my time? :)

Because it is meant to collect reviews from this initiative: http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=80460
...and possibily more.
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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Plastic balls started in 2014.  It is nearly 2018.  Are there still a lot of people playing with celluloid balls?[...]
In our club we still play with celluloid balls. Non-celluloid balls will only become mandatory starting with the next season. In the meantime,we're in an awful grey area where each club can decide.
I hope the plastic balls will have improved by then.

Please ignore, this was not meant to become a discussion on plastic balls.


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I understand and I certainly don't want to derail your thread!!!

Still, it will be helpful for your thread if when people state their experiences using Nexy blades (the point of the thread) that they mention which kind of 40+ plastic ball they were playing with because it makes a difference. The last off-topic comment I will make is that by 2018 my best guess is that most people will be using ABS balls made by DHS or DF, even if they are rebrands, such as the newest Stiga ball.  Not everybody will love them but they are ok and by then there will be some degree of consistency.  In Germany you may see quite a few Joola seamless balls also.

OK.  I am definitely done making off-topic remarks here.  Sorry in advance.  Nexy blade users, chime in.  (I use their rubber, not their blade, so I am going to clock out).
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Baal, I agree with you that reviews should mention which 40+ ball was used.

The reason for explicitly mentioning the 40+ balls in the thread title was that this was an explicit requirement for the blade testing action, so it is meant to act as a reminder.

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Here is a quick review on the Chedech, before I go on Vacation.  I only play with it for a couple hours, which I play terrible, specially on game.  I definitely will need to play some ore, and I will update my review later.

I received the blade on Tuesday.  It is a beautiful blade, the top ply is Wenge, according to Nexy web site, I think Wenge is supposed to be a hard wood, but not sure.  Blade does not appear to be sealed at all, the surface is rough to the touch, so I recommend it to be sealed, which I did with a thin water base sealant.

I am not a fan of inner layer composite blade.  For me if I want a woody feel, I get the all wood blade.  If I pay dearly for composite blade, I want to maximize the effect of the composite layer by having it next to the top ply, like the Butterfly Timo Boll series.  Sorry, I didn't check the blade structure before I sign up to test this blade Smile.  I still have the Innerforce ALC, which I hate. I think my Innerforce is slow, and flexy, which most user on the forum disagree, saying that it is fast... Anyway, I did a bare blade bounce test with both Innerforce and the Chedech laying flat on granite counter, and drop DHS D40+ ball on both blades. Chedech has a clear higher bounce, and the bounce last longer than the Innerforce.  I did the same test with the Juic Stellan Bengtsson Alpha, which I happen to have near by, and the bounce is pretty much the same.

I put on a new Acuda S1, and Xiom Sigma PRO, both 2.0mm to test. Chedech is stiffer compare to the Innerforce (if I remember correctly), but has more flex compare to the TB ALC, that I am playing with.  Switch back and forth between Chedech and TB ALC, the Chedech requires me to put more power (drive), into the ball to keep the same counter pace, so it has noticeable lower bounce on low power shot compare to TB ALC.  I remember the same effort that I have to put in when playing counter with the Innerforce (this is few years ago, back I still play with the celluloid ball),  I will probably put rubber on my innerforce ALC to do a more fair comparison later.  On power loop, the ball can go fast and spinny, so looks like Chedech has a wide range of gear.  It could be that I don't have the same confident with Chedech on power loop as when I use my TB ALC, so I could not keep looping as many time as I would with the TB ALC, but I think part of it could be that I have to put in more effort with the Chedech to generate the same power as the TB ALC.  I think with practice, I probably will not have to sacrifice the recovery time when generate power with it.  I think those who play with TB ALC, or any similar ALC blade, will find Chedech a little under power, and may need some time to adjust. On the other hand, those who play with 5-ply wood may appreciate it more as it feels pretty much like an all wood, but with bigger sweet spot, and more power.

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Nice review, I agree with your sentiments completely about inner and outer composite layers. Either outer for full effect, or all wood for me.
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Review of Nexy Rubicon

For the purpose of this review I attached Tibhar Evolution EL-S's 1.9mm. I also used the Butterfly 3 Star G40+ plastic seam ball.

So, I've had about 8-10 hours with the Rubicon so far. I had mixed expectations about this blade because I've tried dozens of all wood blades in the past and nothing really satisfied me. But, I've played with 5-6 Nexy blades before(all-wood) and they all have had something special about them. In the review I'm going to compare the Rubicon to my daily driver, the Michael Maze(same rubbers). For some context, I'm a close to the table, allround attacker. The handle is FL and kind of thin but comfortable to hold due to the sanded wings. I would rate the blade somewhere nicely between ALL+ and OFF-.

Serve/Receive
This blade has a great touch game given that it has harder outers than the Maze. Keeping the ball low and short wasn't a problem, better than the Maze. Serving required a little more effort to achieve the same level of spin but when it was tweaked the blade actually allowed better spin variation in my serves.

Loops/Drives
Opening loops were a breeze with this blade but with less spin than the Maze. Away from the table this blade struggled with power where you really had to use every bit of body movement to make a powerful attacking shot. Driving close and mid distance is the strength of this blade when it comes to heavy topspin shots.

Blocking
I'm a pretty aggressive blocker especially on my BH. This blade allowed me block aggressively with great consistency and confidence. Amazingly I found this combination to be great for punch blocks. With Nexy blades I've always found that the tightness of the grip changes the flight path and speed. This blade was no different, so I could mix it up and play a few passive blocks and vary the distance of those blocks very effectively.

Counter Attacks
Along with blocking, this is where this blade shines. Close to mid distance counter hitting was amazing. Close to mid distance countering is where I'm most comfortable and this blade really fit into my comfort zone. A lot of times with the Maze I found myself holding back on a full stroke just to keep the ball on the table. In doing so, I found speed and spin may not always be maximized to produce a winning shot. But, with the Rubicon I could really open on the counter hits to produce a lot of consistent winners with full speed to spin possible.

Conclusion
This is my first review ever so hopefully I was able to convey what this blade brings to the table. I always have my Maze and 1 or 2 other blades at the table that I'm testing and in the last 2 hours of testing I didn't have any urge to go back and play with my trusty Maze. Anallround attacker close to mid distance who base the game around ball placement by way of blocking and counter attacking would love this blade.
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