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    Posted: 12/09/2017 at 3:25pm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/09/2017 at 3:29pm
Its Not in english....


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/09/2017 at 4:24pm

I read the English subtitles

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/09/2017 at 9:39pm
Replace original ZJK with the Wavestone and I'll accept this list.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/09/2017 at 9:56pm
No Tibhar Inca... bad list.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/09/2017 at 10:06pm
Those are only 9 blades in the picture
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/09/2017 at 11:33pm
Originally posted by ronakvyas86 ronakvyas86 wrote:

Those are only 9 blades in the picture

10 in the video though
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/10/2017 at 8:13am
Butterfly dominates. Does butterfly dominate blades on the world scene like they do with rubbers?
On topic-i am surprised the tinge T8 made the list. My experience with that blade was less than impressive. If course w Chinese qc, my one blade may have been a junker.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/10/2017 at 8:19am
Those top ten lists seem like "10 things that I actually tried" because they're pretty random. I do appreciate that they include Chinese stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/10/2017 at 8:35am
Butterfly sells 4 times as many blades as Stiga a year.

What do you think?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/10/2017 at 9:07am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Butterfly sells 4 times as many blades as Stiga a year.

What do you think?


People still buy Stiga?😀
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/10/2017 at 10:05am
Originally posted by cole_ely cole_ely wrote:

Those top ten lists seem like "10 things that I actually tried" because they're pretty random. I do appreciate that they include Chinese stuff.


Yup, cheap $40 DHS blades made the list. 👍
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/10/2017 at 10:25am
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/10/2017 at 10:35am
Originally posted by Soundoff88 Soundoff88 wrote:

Originally posted by cole_ely cole_ely wrote:

Those top ten lists seem like "10 things that I actually tried" because they're pretty random. I do appreciate that they include Chinese stuff.


Yup, cheap $40 DHS blades made the list. 👍


Including blades too new to seriously evaluate their success.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/10/2017 at 10:57am
Originally posted by the_theologian the_theologian wrote:

Originally posted by ronakvyas86 ronakvyas86 wrote:

Those are only 9 blades in the picture


10 in the video though

Yet there are actually 11 blades shown.

What a plot twist!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/10/2017 at 12:59pm
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

No Tibhar Inca... bad list.

Same goes for Nexy Arirang, def one of the best ALC blades out thereClap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/10/2017 at 2:10pm
If there is a great ALC blade, I've yet to find one. All of the ones I've tried out, including my own rather flimsey, Donic True Carbon, lack character and robustness. Rather toyish in nature. However it could very well be that the top l0 simply overlap with the bottom 10. 😃

Just a different point if view.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/10/2017 at 4:32pm
Tibhar CCA Unlimited is obviously lacking.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/10/2017 at 6:11pm
Originally posted by richrf richrf wrote:

If there is a great ALC blade, I've yet to find one. All of the ones I've tried out, including my own rather flimsey, Donic True Carbon, lack character and robustness. Rather toyish in nature. However it could very well be that the top l0 simply overlap with the bottom 10. 😃

Just a different point if view.


A large number of top professional players including a grand slam winner -- and also this lowly moderator -- beg to differ.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/10/2017 at 6:21pm
Originally posted by richrf richrf wrote:

If there is a great ALC blade, I've yet to find one. All of the ones I've tried out, including my own rather flimsey, Donic True Carbon, lack character and robustness. Rather toyish in nature. However it could very well be that the top l0 simply overlap with the bottom 10. 😃

Just a different point if view.

There is a reason you are not a great player you know while great players use ALC blades or have them named after them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/10/2017 at 6:54pm
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by richrf richrf wrote:

If there is a great ALC blade, I've yet to find one. All of the ones I've tried out, including my own rather flimsey, Donic True Carbon, lack character and robustness. Rather toyish in nature. However it could very well be that the top l0 simply overlap with the bottom 10. 😃

Just a different point if view.

There is a reason you are not a great player you know while great players use ALC blades or have them named after them.


No way top players are using the junk that is being sold through retailers, especially online retailers. I'm not that naive.

My advice is to ignore these marketing videos and if someone has a good blade of any type, hold onto it and take care of it because it will be very difficult and expensive to replace.

Edited by richrf - 12/10/2017 at 7:04pm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/10/2017 at 6:57pm
For those that don't want to waste 10 minutes of their time, here is the list

  1. Viscaria
  2. Zhang jike blue dragon ALC
  3. DHS Hurricane 301
  4. DHS Hurricane Fang Bo 2
  5. Butterfly Innerforce ALC
  6. DHS hurricane Long 5
  7. Timo Boll ALC
  8. Timo Boll Spirit
  9. Sanwei F3
  10. Yinhe T-8

As someone noted, this is a pretty weird list, that includes some not so well received blades.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/10/2017 at 7:22pm
Originally posted by richrf richrf wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by richrf richrf wrote:

If there is a great ALC blade, I've yet to find one. All of the ones I've tried out, including my own rather flimsey, Donic True Carbon, lack character and robustness. Rather toyish in nature. However it could very well be that the top l0 simply overlap with the bottom 10. 😃

Just a different point if view.

There is a reason you are not a great player you know while great players use ALC blades or have them named after them.


No way top players are using the junk that is being sold through retailers, especially online retailers. I'm not that naive.

My advice is to ignore these marketing videos and if someone has a good blade of any type, hold onto it and take care of it because it will be very difficult and expensive to replace.

Having used the true carbon and a lot of these ALC blades, I suspect the real problem is user limitations. But I won't dwell on it. Trolling needs to be ignored.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/10/2017 at 7:25pm
TBS and TB ALC are so different, how can they be ranked this close?   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/10/2017 at 7:28pm
Originally posted by richrf richrf wrote:

If there is a great ALC blade, I've yet to find one. All of the ones I've tried out, including my own rather flimsey, Donic True Carbon, lack character and robustness. Rather toyish in nature. However it could very well be that the top l0 simply overlap with the bottom 10. 😃

Just a different point if view.


Point of view based on not having played with your own OTC, right? Actually testing equipment is overrated anyway.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/10/2017 at 8:01pm
Originally posted by ohwell ohwell wrote:

Originally posted by richrf richrf wrote:

If there is a great ALC blade, I've yet to find one. All of the ones I've tried out, including my own rather flimsey, Donic True Carbon, lack character and robustness. Rather toyish in nature. However it could very well be that the top l0 simply overlap with the bottom 10. 😃

Just a different point if view.


Point of view based on not having played with your own OTC, right? Actually testing equipment is overrated anyway.


I've played with several that I rejected outright. This particular Donic blade got a really positive review from TT11's reviewer so I went with it. 😃

I've been playing for decades, and I know crap blades when I see one. My guess is that there is a HUGE difference between reviewed blades and pro blades and the ones that are released through retail channels. But this technique is not limited to table tennis. I recently went through the same experience buying audio equipment. Great reviews for what amounts to commerical junk. I really regret letting go of my terrific BIC speakers of ole. Now that brick and mortar retail shops have been pushed out of business, online shopping is the only way to go and it is risky and expensive especially since manufacturers know how to manipulate the market.

I apologize for disrupting the purpose of this marketing video. 😃


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/11/2017 at 9:43am
Originally posted by richrf richrf wrote:



I've played with several that I rejected outright. This particular Donic blade got a really positive review from TT11's reviewer so I went with it. 😃

I've been playing for decades, and I know crap blades when I see one. My guess is that there is a HUGE difference between reviewed blades and pro blades and the ones that are released through retail channels. But this technique is not limited to table tennis. I recently went through the same experience buying audio equipment. Great reviews for what amounts to commerical junk. I really regret letting go of my terrific BIC speakers of ole. Now that brick and mortar retail shops have been pushed out of business, online shopping is the only way to go and it is risky and expensive especially since manufacturers know how to manipulate the market.

I apologize for disrupting the purpose of this marketing video. 😃


This is as bizarre a post as I have seen in a long time. It sounds trollish or sock puppet like. Online stores for table tennis have allowed table tennis players access to quality products that was unattainable for almost everyone in this board. The brick and mortar stores have and continue to sell the least quality crap. How many table tennis products do you buy in stores now???

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/11/2017 at 10:20am
Originally posted by vanjr vanjr wrote:



This is as bizarre a post as I have seen in a long time. It sounds trollish or sock puppet like. Online stores for table tennis have allowed table tennis players access to quality products that was unattainable for almost everyone in this board. The brick and mortar stores have and continue to sell the least quality crap. How many table tennis products do you buy in stores now???


I've literally thrown out 90% or more of the stuff I've purchased online. I've kept a sheet of Calibra and Phenix. By far the best equipment I've ever had were the blades and rubbers purchased for me by my coaches in Chicago via their channels. (They were US rated 2500+ and 2700+). For the most part online purchases are an expensive gamble which can probably best be described as unwilling EJing.

Unfortunately, I no longer have no access to reliable channels so I threw away $160 and will continue to play with my 8 year old setup because I can find no better. No big deal.My old Calibra plays like a Mark V which is good enough. After all it is the practice that counts not the equipment.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/11/2017 at 10:35am
Originally posted by rocketman222 rocketman222 wrote:

For those that don't want to waste 10 minutes of their time, here is the list

  1. Viscaria
  2. Zhang jike blue dragon ALC
  3. DHS Hurricane 301
  4. DHS Hurricane Fang Bo 2
  5. Butterfly Innerforce ALC
  6. DHS hurricane Long 5
  7. Timo Boll ALC
  8. Timo Boll Spirit
  9. Sanwei F3
  10. Yinhe T-8

As someone noted, this is a pretty weird list, that includes some not so well received blades.


I suspect this is an old list and I haven't played with all of them.  I have to say that for some reason I never liked the Blue Dragon ALC, I thought its weight balance was weird and I very much prefer the newer ZJK-ALC.  Also it is odd that the Maze or its successor is not on the list. 

Not everyone will like ALC blades.  But a lot of people do.  And there are blades with quite similar materials, like Stradivarius and the Donic True Carbon. 

The only way to know if you like a blade is to play with it.  I play with a Viscaria and have since 2006 or 2007 (I used a Keyshot and a TBS before that).  I have had a chance to compare my favorite one to a blade that of a former US National champion received from Btfly when this player was at his peak.  His was very good but I have several that are just as good and my favorite two are better.  To me weight is a key factor but there is something in the best of them that only arises from random chance I think. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/11/2017 at 10:39am
It's funny that you are commenting about the "robustness" and "character" of a blade that you never actually hit with. You say in this thread you have tried your True Carbon but on your for sale post you advertise it as never used so you should probably account for that discrepancy. If you are so wise to "know a crap blade when you see one" then why all the equipment question threads? And if you're defining "top player" as 2500+, yes, most of them do get their blades from the same sources as online retailers. 

I would be curious to know the details of a player who can't even see a world where ALC is a viable choice for many. 
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