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    Posted: 12/12/2017 at 12:10am
I recently re-embraced the Dark Side (fitting with The Last Jedi coming out this week). I played short pips for nearly 3 years, took a 4 month hiatus, and decided to give inverted rubber another shot. Bad idea... I'm committing to short pips again.

I'm giving some German short pips a try. This is Sauer&Tr√∂ger, a German TT company specializing in pips.


HASS (German for "hate") & ZARGUS (Lithuanian for "zeal")

From the manufacturer:

HASS - "Why is your opponent so despondent? That angry look can only be because of another unplayable shot with your S&T Hass! After extensive research S&T have launched Hass, an extremely powerful short pimple with inbuilt speed glue effect. Even with short strokes your shot develops explosive power and rotationBe the game dominator!"

ZARGUS - "S&T Zargus is a wide short pimple providing a consistent balance for both: attacking and passive shotsZargus offers maximum control combined with a high disruptive effect and makes it easy to place the ball preciselyS&T Zargus ‚Äď excellent for a full range of controlled strokes."



SPONGE - I bought both rubbers in 1.8 mm thickness. Hass' sponge is quite soft with a bright salmon color (pic doesn't do it justice). Zargus' is harder/deader and is golden-yellow.

PIPS - Hass' pips are cylindrical and average width. Zargus' are conical and remind me of 802's pips.

HARDNESS - Hass' sponge and cylindrical pips give a softer, springy feel when bouncing the ball up and down. Zargus' harder sponge combined with sturdy conical pips has a hard, solid feel that almost grips the ball when you bounce it.

WEIGHT - Sadly, I have no gram scale, but Hass is way lighter than Zargus. At the same thickness, the difference uncut is massive. Zargus has denser sponge and thicker pips, so it's not a big surprise. Hass feels featherweight.

I'm excited to review these rubbers over the next few days and post my discoveries!
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Looks promising, hardly any player uses short pimples over here.
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Any opinion about their long pips?
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Originally posted by alexuganski alexuganski wrote:

I recently re-embraced the Dark Side (fitting with The Last Jedi coming out this week). I played short pips for nearly 3 years, took a 4 month hiatus, and decided to give inverted rubber another shot. Bad idea... I'm committing to short pips again.

I'm giving some German short pips a try. This is Sauer&Tröger, a German TT company specializing in pips.

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<div style="text-align: center;">HASS (German for "hate") & ZARGUS (Lithuanian for "zeal")<div style="text-align: center;">
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From the manufacturer:

HASS - "<span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">Why is your opponent so despondent? That angry look can only be because of another unplayable shot with your S&T Hass! </span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">After extensive research S&T have launched Hass, an</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;"> </span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: inherit; -sizing: border-; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: line;">extremely powerful short pimple</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;"> </span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">with</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;"> </span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: inherit; -sizing: border-; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: line;">inbuilt speed glue effect</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">. Even with short strokes your shot develops</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;"> </span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: inherit; -sizing: border-; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: line;">explosive power and rotation</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">. </span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">Be the game dominator!"</span>
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<span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">ZARGUS - "</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">S&T Zargus is a wide short pimple providing a</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">¬†</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: inherit; -sizing: border-; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: line;">consistent balance</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">¬†</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">for both:</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">¬†</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: inherit; -sizing: border-; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: line;">attacking and passive shots</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">.¬†</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">Zargus offers</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">¬†</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: inherit; -sizing: border-; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: line;">maximum control</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">¬†</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">combined with a</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">¬†</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: inherit; -sizing: border-; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: line;">high disruptive effect</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">¬†</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">and makes it</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">¬†</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: inherit; -sizing: border-; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: line;">easy to place the ball precisely</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">.¬†</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">S&T Zargus ‚Äď excellent for a full range of controlled strokes."</span>
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<div style="text-align: left;">SPONGE - I bought both rubbers in 1.8 mm thickness. Hass' sponge is quite soft with a bright salmon color (pic doesn't do it justice). Zargus' is harder/deader and is golden-yellow.<div style="text-align: left;">
<div style="text-align: left;">PIPS - Hass' pips are cylindrical and average width. Zargus' are conical and remind me of 802's pips.<div style="text-align: left;">
<div style="text-align: left;">HARDNESS - Hass' sponge and cylindrical pips give a softer, springy feel when bouncing the ball up and down. Zargus' harder sponge combined with sturdy conical pips has a hard, solid feel that almost grips the ball when you bounce it.<div style="text-align: left;">
<div style="text-align: left;">WEIGHT - Sadly, I have no gram scale, but Hass is way lighter than Zargus. At the same thickness, the difference uncut is massive. Zargus has denser sponge and thicker pips, so it's not a big surprise. Hass feels featherweight.<div style="text-align: left;">
<div style="text-align: left;">I'm excited to review these rubbers over the next few days and post my discoveries!


I have tried breakout and control doesnt match what I Read about it
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any info? looks like zargus is like waran and hass like 651
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