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    Posted: 12/14/2017 at 8:39pm
Would like to know if any of you have experience with Dandoy bio boost and how it compares to Falco Tempo Long, mostly along the following lines, this is only for ESN/Euro/Japanese rubbers.

  • Which one has a stronger effect in terms of increased speed/spin?
  • Which one softens the rubber more?
  • Effect longevity, how long does the boost effect last.
I have experience with using FTL, but know nothing about dandoy bioboost.

p.s. I have seen similar topic threads being derailed by questions about if its legal or not to use a booster etc, so please keep this thread to the point in case you feel like going off-topic.


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Originally posted by rocketman222 rocketman222 wrote:

Would like to know if any of you have experience with Dandoy bio boost and how it compares to Falco Tempo Long, mostly along the following lines, this is only for ESN/Euro/Japanese rubbers.

  • Which one has a stronger effect in terms of increased speed/spin?
  • Which one softens the rubber more?
  • Effect longevity, how long does the boost effect last.
I have experience with using FTL, but know nothing about dandoy bioboost.

p.s. I have seen similar topic threads being derailed by questions about if its legal or not to use a booster etc, so please keep this thread to the point in case you feel like going off-topic.

Firstly, they (Dandoy and Falco) are in 2 opposite polar of booster kinds. Dandoy is thin and running, Falco is thick and slow.

Dandoy is stronger and faster in all of aspects
Falco softens the rubber significantly
Effect of Falco lasts very long, due to the softening effect is nearly forever.



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Chop4ever I totally forgot, I should have directly asked you this. I can't think of many people more knowledgeable than you on this topic.
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Does Falco soften the rubber and at the same time giving speed glue effect for long period? Or it just soften damage the rubber without increasing of speed. Currently, I am using Li Du Booster, I always put 2-3 layers at Neo Province H3, it can continues playing for 3-4 days, on the 5th day I will start to feel the speed of H3 is dropping and harden. If falcon is good, I need to change my booster.


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Originally posted by cherng cherng wrote:

Does Falco soften the rubber and at the same time giving speed glue effect for long period? Or it just soften damage the rubber without increasing of speed. Currently, I am using Li Du Booster, I always put 2-3 layers at Neo Province H3, it can continues playing for 3-4 days, on the 5th day I will start to feel the speed of H3 is dropping and harden. If falcon is good, I need to change my booster.


you must be a very dedicated to boost every 4 days.
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Falco Tempo affect stays for 8-12 weeks
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I boost all my Chinese rubbers with Falco Long and surely the rubber becomes livelier and softer and it easily stays like this for at least 3 months. Never tried another booster. Too lazy to apply every week or so
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Falco softens the rubber a *ton*, and is slower than the lidu I’ve tried (clear, not the yellow version, which is supposed to be even faster). It may be slowing down a little after a few days, but a lot of people find they still get a good effect from Lidu for up to 3 weeks - unlike Eg seamoon. Have you considered sticking to Lidu but boosting less often?
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Andro Rasant (dunno about Rasanter) smells just like Dandoy Bio Booster.

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Originally posted by cherng cherng wrote:

Does Falco soften the rubber and at the same time giving speed glue effect for long period? Or it just soften damage the rubber without increasing of speed. Currently, I am using Li Du Booster, I always put 2-3 layers at Neo Province H3, it can continues playing for 3-4 days, on the 5th day I will start to feel the speed of H3 is dropping and harden. If falcon is good, I need to change my booster.



Falco softens the sponge and gives 2-4grs adding to the total weight. For who likes the "feeling" of rubber and isn't effected by weight variety, Falco is for them.
However, none of pro uses it.
Kailin has longer effect. The harder sponge is, the longer lasting time. 
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Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

I boost all my Chinese rubbers with Falco Long and surely the rubber becomes livelier and softer and it easily stays like this for at least 3 months. Never tried another booster. Too lazy to apply every week or so

why don't u try Dandoy to see if you have to re-apply it everyweek?
Dandoy, Dianchi, Kailin, Lidu, Nittaku Axel, Stiga Extreme, TRF,..all last longer than 3 weeks.
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I would like to try other boosters, but really have a problem to make my choice cause no one around me is boosting. And when I say boosting I am not sure what to expect exactly. As I mentioned the FTL makes my fubbers softer and "livelier" but more or less that's all. I am not sure about spin or speed
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?Подскажите, где купить chop4ever ?
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Originally posted by Hudoi Hudoi wrote:

<font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">?Подскажите, где купить <span style="line-height: 16.8px; : rgb230, 236, 249;">chop4ever ?</span>



хочешь получить ответ тогда надо писать на английском. Тут русских мало.

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Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

I would like to try other boosters, but really have a problem to make my choice cause no one around me is boosting. And when I say boosting I am not sure what to expect exactly. As I mentioned the FTL makes my fubbers softer and "livelier" but more or less that's all. I am not sure about spin or speed
Do you boost an exact number of layers or many layers until the rubber dome?
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Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

I would like to try other boosters, but really have a problem to make my choice cause no one around me is boosting. And when I say boosting I am not sure what to expect exactly. As I mentioned the FTL makes my fubbers softer and "livelier" but more or less that's all. I am not sure about spin or speed

Try any of these Dianchi, Lidu, Kailin, Nittaku Axel, Stiga Extreme, Dandoy, Joola Bio, TFR,...and even Phoenix Reviver (my tuner liquid). We stand from the opposite side of Falco.
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Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

I would like to try other boosters, but really have a problem to make my choice cause no one around me is boosting. And when I say boosting I am not sure what to expect exactly. As I mentioned the FTL makes my fubbers softer and "livelier" but more or less that's all. I am not sure about spin or speed

Try any of these Dianchi, Lidu, Kailin, Nittaku Axel, Stiga Extreme, Dandoy, Joola Bio, TFR,...and even Phoenix Reviver (my tuner liquid). We stand from the opposite side of Falco.


sometimes I need to soften the sponge of chinese rubbers forever.what booster would be good?
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Falco long is great for softening the sponge permanently.
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Though falco works great on ESN, it does not have as much of an effect on Chinese sponge, also Chop4ever is the master chemist. I would blindly follow his advice.
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anyone knows where I can purchase Stiga Extreme? please PM me
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Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

I would like to try other boosters, but really have a problem to make my choice cause no one around me is boosting. And when I say boosting I am not sure what to expect exactly. As I mentioned the FTL makes my fubbers softer and "livelier" but more or less that's all. I am not sure about spin or speed

Try any of these Dianchi, Lidu, Kailin, Nittaku Axel, Stiga Extreme, Dandoy, Joola Bio, TFR,...and even Phoenix Reviver (my tuner liquid). We stand from the opposite side of Falco.


sometimes I need to soften the sponge of chinese rubbers forever.what booster would be good?

Well, in this case you should buy a softer H3. Why do you buy a harder sponge and tune it to be softer?
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Originally posted by Hudoi Hudoi wrote:

?
Tell me, please, where to buy Chop4ever?

You actually can't buy Chop4ever...it is impossible!
I've bought a 500ml can of Stiga Extreme from long ago, just for comparing to Nittaku Axel Speed. It's been discontinued however you could buy the last 500ml can from me. I've used some drops, 499ml is still there.
And if you are worry that if you have used all 500ml Stiga Extreme, where to find it again. Then buy Phoenix Reviver, more powerful and last 2x longer.

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Originally posted by taczkid taczkid wrote:

anyone knows where I can purchase Stiga Extreme? please PM me

Buy Nittaku Speed Axel if you can't find the Stiga Extreme, they are the same.

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Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by Hudoi Hudoi wrote:

?
Tell me, please, where to buy Chop4ever?

You actually can't buy Chop4ever...it is impossible!
I've bought a 500ml can of Stiga Extreme from long ago, just for comparing to Nittaku Axel Speed. It's been discontinued however you could buy the last 500ml can from me. I've used some drops, 499ml is still there.
And if you are worry that if you have used all 500ml Stiga Extreme, where to find it again. Then buy Phoenix Reviver, more powerful and last 2x longer.


Lol!  What about the Phoenix Reviver?  :P
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Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by Hudoi Hudoi wrote:

?
Tell me, please, where to buy Chop4ever?

You actually can't buy Chop4ever...it is impossible!
I've bought a 500ml can of Stiga Extreme from long ago, just for comparing to Nittaku Axel Speed. It's been discontinued however you could buy the last 500ml can from me. I've used some drops, 499ml is still there.
And if you are worry that if you have used all 500ml Stiga Extreme, where to find it again. Then buy Phoenix Reviver, more powerful and last 2x longer.



Hi , i could send him a test sample of your stuff chop, and he pays only the shipping cost etc. If he wants to try reviver phoenix.


Edited by mttgfg - 02/14/2018 at 11:08am
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Originally posted by TT newbie TT newbie wrote:

Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

I would like to try other boosters, but really have a problem to make my choice cause no one around me is boosting. And when I say boosting I am not sure what to expect exactly. As I mentioned the FTL makes my fubbers softer and "livelier" but more or less that's all. I am not sure about spin or speed

Do you boost an exact number of layers or many layers until the rubber dome?

Untill dome
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Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

I would like to try other boosters, but really have a problem to make my choice cause no one around me is boosting. And when I say boosting I am not sure what to expect exactly. As I mentioned the FTL makes my fubbers softer and "livelier" but more or less that's all. I am not sure about spin or speed

Try any of these Dianchi, Lidu, Kailin, Nittaku Axel, Stiga Extreme, Dandoy, Joola Bio, TFR,...and even Phoenix Reviver (my tuner liquid). We stand from the opposite side of Falco.


sometimes I need to soften the sponge of chinese rubbers forever.what booster would be good?

Well, in this case you should buy a softer H3. Why do you buy a harder sponge and tune it to be softer?


Logically this make sense. From what I have tried the softer TG3(I guess H3 as well) is slower than the ones I boost, although they become more or less equally soft
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Originally posted by mttgfg mttgfg wrote:

Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by Hudoi Hudoi wrote:

?
Tell me, please, where to buy Chop4ever?

You actually can't buy Chop4ever...it is impossible!
I've bought a 500ml can of Stiga Extreme from long ago, just for comparing to Nittaku Axel Speed. It's been discontinued however you could buy the last 500ml can from me. I've used some drops, 499ml is still there.
And if you are worry that if you have used all 500ml Stiga Extreme, where to find it again. Then buy Phoenix Reviver, more powerful and last 2x longer.



Hi , i could send him a test sample of your stuff chop, and he pays only the shipping cost etc. If he wants to try reviver phoenix.
I would like to try it as well.  Please PM me for the arrangement.  Thanks.  
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