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    Posted: 12/16/2017 at 9:33am
Unbelievable match against Dima...unlucky to lose. How long before this kid start seriously challenging the Chinese? Japan have some great talent coming through. Hina Hayata another outstanding talent on the women's side for them at only 17.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/17/2017 at 1:53pm
Hate to be racist but one of japan's biggest weakness is their blood. They are genetically inferior(or doesn't dope), they all lack power. Japanese player are better in their junior years. Moreover they don't fake age (yes harimoto is actually 15 years old, unlike FZD he was 18 when the media say he's 15). If you think about that, japanese kids actually > Chinese kids. However, the moment they hit puberty is when they hit their skill ceiling because their body doesn't grow that much. That said Harimoto isn't 100% pure japanese so there's a chance he can grow well. 


More into the power. Not only Japanese have weaker physique they also use a weaker FH euro stroke. That is ok for Euro player when most of them can easily tower 6 FT+. That's not the case for Japanese. On top of that Japanese have weaker physique(or doesn't dope). The chinese/korean compensate it with their own stroke where they put everything into their FH. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/17/2017 at 2:10pm
Originally posted by klin0328 klin0328 wrote:

Hate to be racist but one of japan's biggest weakness is their blood. They are genetically inferior(or doesn't dope), they all lack power. Japanese player are better in their junior years. Moreover they don't fake age (yes harimoto is actually 15 years old, unlike FZD he was 18 when the media say he's 15). If you think about that, japanese kids actually > Chinese kids. However, the moment they hit puberty is when they hit their skill ceiling because their body doesn't grow that much. That said Harimoto isn't 100% pure japanese so there's a chance he can grow well. 



More into the power. Not only Japanese have weaker physique they also use a weaker FH euro stroke. That is ok for Euro player when most of them can easily tower 6 FT+. That's not the case for Japanese. On top of that Japanese have weaker physique(or doesn't dope). The chinese/korean compensate it with their own stroke where they put everything into their FH. 






most japanese rely on BH and control based game that discourage them of having a good FH
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/17/2017 at 2:14pm
there is thread about Harimoto already
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=70429
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/18/2017 at 6:12am
Originally posted by klin0328 klin0328 wrote:

Hate to be racist but one of japan's biggest weakness is their blood. They are genetically inferior(or doesn't dope), they all lack power. Japanese player are better in their junior years. Moreover they don't fake age (yes harimoto is actually 15 years old, unlike FZD he was 18 when the media say he's 15). If you think about that, japanese kids actually > Chinese kids. However, the moment they hit puberty is when they hit their skill ceiling because their body doesn't grow that much. That said Harimoto isn't 100% pure japanese so there's a chance he can grow well. 


More into the power. Not only Japanese have weaker physique they also use a weaker FH euro stroke. That is ok for Euro player when most of them can easily tower 6 FT+. That's not the case for Japanese. On top of that Japanese have weaker physique(or doesn't dope). The chinese/korean compensate it with their own stroke where they put everything into their FH. 

You realize phrasing it differently would do the exact same job, except not, in your own words 'appear racist.'

Simply saying 'I struggle to see the majority of Japanese players being able to reach the very pinnacle of our sport, because i think power/physicality is super important in TT, esp. with the changes today. Japanese people tend to be smaller and weaker, and perhaps this is evidenced by them excelling in junior ranks, but struggling post puberty when typically taller Europeans / somewhat larger Chinese players on average, tend to fill out.'

Blah blah blah, the point is, just saying they tend to be smaller is racist, but when you use words like 'genetically inferior' and 'weakness in their blood' its going to be offensive regardless. There is no issue in saying physically weaker on average, or genetically predisposed to being smaller, but 'genetically inferior' is a pretty loaded term, as is making comments on peoples blood..

I'm not trying to attack you, because I don't know whether you were meaning to be insulting, or simply came across that way, just if you are receptive to criticism, then im explaining that you can say the same thing and get your point across better, without insulting people.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/18/2017 at 8:01am
Originally posted by klin0328 klin0328 wrote:

Hate to be racist but one of japan's biggest weakness is their blood. They are genetically inferior(or doesn't dope), they all lack power. Japanese player are better in their junior years. Moreover they don't fake age (yes harimoto is actually 15 years old, unlike FZD he was 18 when the media say he's 15). If you think about that, japanese kids actually > Chinese kids. However, the moment they hit puberty is when they hit their skill ceiling because their body doesn't grow that much. That said Harimoto isn't 100% pure japanese so there's a chance he can grow well. 


More into the power. Not only Japanese have weaker physique they also use a weaker FH euro stroke. That is ok for Euro player when most of them can easily tower 6 FT+. That's not the case for Japanese. On top of that Japanese have weaker physique(or doesn't dope). The chinese/korean compensate it with their own stroke where they put everything into their FH. 

This just shows that you are uneducated and don't know a lot about genetics nor bio chemistry. It's simply not true what you stated. There are many very physically strong Japanese people and the difference you mean is just a different in focus regarding training.

This racism has no place here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/18/2017 at 8:44am
Edit: not even gonna bother.

I'm with OP on this one.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/18/2017 at 8:55am
Hate to be racist? Doesn't sound like it. Take it somewhere else. Also factually incorrect.

Bye bye.

Thead locked. There is already a Harimoto thread.

Don't try this at home.
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