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    Posted: 12/16/2017 at 4:02pm
Anyone else hear about the new ball? Soon no more 40+ plastic poly ball. 

It will be some kind of synthetic plastic and play exactly like the 40 celluloid ball.
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Another new ball? Oh joy....
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No 40+ ball can pla exactly like celluloid. But if it comes closer it is good. But this sounds like ABS.
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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

No 40+ ball can pla exactly like celluloid. But if it comes closer it is good. But this sounds like ABS.

I doubt it will be exactly the same. What does abs mean? 
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Nittaku Nexcel 40+ is going to be made of a new plastic, other than ABS.      
approval data October 2017, release data unknown as yet.
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Interesting.
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What is the projected price $5.00 each ?

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I love the title of this thread, "synthetic plastic"!!!

I guess I am holding out for the organic natural plastic 40+ balls myself.
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Originally posted by vanjr vanjr wrote:

I love the title of this thread, "synthetic plastic"!!!

I guess I am holding out for the organic natural plastic 40+ balls myself.


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Originally posted by vanjr vanjr wrote:

I love the title of this thread, "synthetic plastic"!!!

I guess I am holding out for the organic natural plastic 40+ balls myself.


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Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:

Nittaku Nexcel 40+ is going to be made of a new plastic, other than ABS.      
approval data October 2017, release data unknown as yet.
Butterfly is also advertising a new A40+ ball, new material, supposed to be shipping in February.
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Originally posted by benfb benfb wrote:

Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:

Nittaku Nexcel 40+ is going to be made of a new plastic, other than ABS.      
approval data October 2017, release data unknown as yet.
Butterfly is also advertising a new A40+ ball, new material, supposed to be shipping in February.

I've seen it for sale on ttnpp: 

http://ttnpp.com/store/3-stars/898-butterfly-3-star-ball-a40-39.html
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Originally posted by jk92 jk92 wrote:

Originally posted by benfb benfb wrote:

Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:

Nittaku Nexcel 40+ is going to be made of a new plastic, other than ABS.      
approval data October 2017, release data unknown as yet.
Butterfly is also advertising a new A40+ ball, new material, supposed to be shipping in February.

I've seen it for sale on ttnpp: 

http://ttnpp.com/store/3-stars/898-butterfly-3-star-ball-a40-39.html

I'm pretty sure that A40+ ball is an ABS ball.

It's probably to replace the G40+ ball that butterfly manufactures.

The (G) in G40+ is for (G)arbage.


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Sanwei d40 ABS seamed balls are very popular in aliexpress. 6 pack costs 5 bucks+ shipping.
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What kind are these I get from yinhe?
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If it plays closer to Celluloid, it would be a win!! I hope so...
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Problem is always size. Probably the most important reason 40+ balls play differently from celluloid is 0.5-1 mm larger diameter and 0.07 gram increase in weight. A new material won't overcome that. But some materials like cellulose acetate make things worse.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to trying these.
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Ba'al, I think for those of us who play with tacky rubbers the material is quite important :)
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Orange ABS?
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Are those the huician balls? (Or however you spell it). From what yinhe told me, they are seamed balls.

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Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:

Nittaku Nexcel 40+ is going to be made of a new plastic, other than ABS.      
approval data October 2017, release data unknown as yet.

This is super interesting :) Looking forward to it!
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THE "THUMB TEST" IS A DANGEROUS THING.

An essential observation with the ABS plastic balls, I recently happened to look up from YouTube.
    -- Testing the ball for hardness with a thumb will cause a permanent dent not to be entirely recovered. The ball tends to give a crack mostly on the spot you tested ...

Have you got the same experience?
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Any ball indented with a thumb is useless afterward.
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As a chopper, I prefer to "test" the ABS ball by my thumb and yes, I did make it roundless for my advance!
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Oh, this is so exciting. I can't wait to try these new balls. Are they going to have spherical shape or the geniuses at ITTF intend to further develop the game by introducing a new, more complicated ball shape, such as truncated icosahedron? If we have balls of different shapes, ping pong will be so much more fun. You will never ever know where it's gonna bounce


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Originally posted by ChichoFicho ChichoFicho wrote:

Oh, this is so exciting. I can't wait to try these new balls. Are they going to have spherical shape or the geniuses at ITTF intend to further develop the game by introducing a new, more complicated ball shape, such as truncated icosahedron? If we have balls of different shapes, ping pong will be so much more fun. You will never ever know where it's gonna bounce

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Double Fish V40+ is a new choice for ITTF events.
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