Arylate-Carbon blade alternative

Someone's going to say Yinhe V-14 though I've never tried it. It's only 30 pounds new on eBay...

The Baum Esprit looks best value for money to me and it did get good reviews when it first came out. I wonder if anyone has played with it for a few months and what they think of it.

I will speak to my own experience with the DHS Fang Bo 2 (carbon). My normal blade is a TB ALC, flared.
1. The Fang Bo has a bigger head. While the weight if the raw blade wasn't much more than the ALC (a couple of grams), once I put similar rubber on both sides the extra weight was noticeable.
2. The blade had a bit less speed than the ALC, possibly due to the carbon layers not being as close to the outside.
3. No issues with spin or control.
4. Fit and finish was really good, not quite up to a Butterfly level, but no issues or complaints.
5. The handle is a bit thinner than an ALC.

Hope that helps. I have no direct experience with the other blades on your list.

Stradivarius doesn't play similar to TBS or Viscaria. it much slower and harder and different feeling. totally different then ALC blades

https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32728475716.html?spm=a2g0n.search-cache.0.0.6f8d4fb0NrtDUg#autostay

XVT ALC blade..about $24 shipped

Edited by the_theologian - 12/27/2017 at 1:26am

TT newbie wrote: I decided to get a shakehand blade which comes close to BTY Arylate-Carbon blades like TBS or Viscaria. I will use Rakza 7 BH and Fastarc G-1 FH. However I don´t want to spend a small fortune in any of those expensive BTY blades, so I´m looking for a cheaper alternative with same characteristics. So far I listed: - Andro Treiber Z - Donic Ovtch. True Carbon - Donic Baum Esprit - Xiom Stradivarius - DHS Fang Bo Carbon Which one (or something else) would you guys recommend?

The Andro Treiber Z is not ALC, so it wouldn't be a fair comparison. But it is faster than TBS,Viscaria or TB-ALC. The hinoki outer-ply feels sweet when playing

Donic Ovtch True Carbon is the closest to Viscaria.  The plies are the same and the thickness is very same. Even the shoulder/neck curves are the same as I can feel the similarity when held in my hand with eyes closed.  The OTC feels and plays the same as Viscaria except one noticeable difference, it's just a little bit faster than Viscaria. I don't know why. I personally feel better playing with OTC, if forced to choose

The Fang Bo 2 Carbon is stiffer than Viscaria, TBS or TB-ALC. On fast offensive shots, it kicks in. However, on passive shots or touch shots it's slower and great control. Easy to block. Skinny handle not for everyone. Cant argue with the price.

Haven't tried the other two blades.

TT newbie wrote: I decided to get a shakehand blade which comes close to BTY Arylate-Carbon blades like TBS or Viscaria. I will use Rakza 7 BH and Fastarc G-1 FH. However I don´t want to spend a small fortune in any of those expensive BTY blades, so I´m looking for a cheaper alternative with same characteristics. So far I listed: - Andro Treiber Z - Donic Ovtch. True Carbon - Donic Baum Esprit - Xiom Stradivarius - DHS Fang Bo Carbon Which one (or something else) would you guys recommend?

Butterfly is butterfly, just like nothing can be a true replacement for the Tenergy rubbers, nothing can truly be a replacement for the butterfly blades. I've come to know this after spending a lot of time and money.

So if you like TBS/Viscaria/TB ALC or any other butterfly blade just go ahead and buy it instead of trying different blades and wasting money when ultimately you will come back to butterfly blade.

arxidiavol wrote: Hi, I can recommend Sanwei F3 old version. It has Innerforce-like structure , but plays more like a TB ALC. My piece was 86 gramm and it was the heaviest one in the shop, 30 EUR shipped. It has virtually little to no vibration. I have also tried XVT ALC. This was 84 gramm, had some vibration, relatively stiff, as the carbon lies directly after the outer koto layer. Harder than TB ALC, IF ALC, Viscaria and Maze. Probably close to ZJ ALC, at least it pretends to have the same as original "dragon" design. My question - what china blades could be a replacement in some extent to IF ALC or have the same structure ? Sanwei F3 old is not a bad choice at all, but I wish it would be slower. Somewhat between TB ALC( too fast for me, although I have played for years with it) and Tibhar Stratus Carbon (too slow, too much vibration)? Any help appreciated.

unstopabl3 wrote: TT newbie wrote: I decided to get a shakehand blade which comes close to BTY Arylate-Carbon blades like TBS or Viscaria. I will use Rakza 7 BH and Fastarc G-1 FH. However I don´t want to spend a small fortune in any of those expensive BTY blades, so I´m looking for a cheaper alternative with same characteristics. So far I listed: - Andro Treiber Z - Donic Ovtch. True Carbon - Donic Baum Esprit - Xiom Stradivarius - DHS Fang Bo Carbon Which one (or something else) would you guys recommend? Butterfly is butterfly, just like nothing can be a true replacement for the Tenergy rubbers, nothing can truly be a replacement for the butterfly blades. I've come to know this after spending a lot of time and money. So if you like TBS/Viscaria/TB ALC or any other butterfly blade just go ahead and buy it instead of trying different blades and wasting money when ultimately you will come back to butterfly blade.

you re a fanboy    seversl players i know are happy playing with rosewood 7 after using butterfly equipment

I wonder if Baal still recommends True Carbon as a more affordable Viscaria alternative.  I haven't A/B's them, so I can't compare; but the True Carbon is a very nice blade IMO.

bbkon wrote: unstopabl3 wrote: TT newbie wrote: I decided to get a shakehand blade which comes close to BTY Arylate-Carbon blades like TBS or Viscaria. I will use Rakza 7 BH and Fastarc G-1 FH. However I don´t want to spend a small fortune in any of those expensive BTY blades, so I´m looking for a cheaper alternative with same characteristics. So far I listed: - Andro Treiber Z - Donic Ovtch. True Carbon - Donic Baum Esprit - Xiom Stradivarius - DHS Fang Bo Carbon Which one (or something else) would you guys recommend? Butterfly is butterfly, just like nothing can be a true replacement for the Tenergy rubbers, nothing can truly be a replacement for the butterfly blades. I've come to know this after spending a lot of time and money. So if you like TBS/Viscaria/TB ALC or any other butterfly blade just go ahead and buy it instead of trying different blades and wasting money when ultimately you will come back to butterfly blade. you re a fanboy    seversl players i know are happy playing with rosewood 7 after using butterfly equipment

Not really a butterfly fan boy but I have enough experience to know what a quality product is and I rather spend once than trying different blades and spending a higher amount which I could have saved.

P.S

I have about 7 different carbon blades from different brands and nothing plays or feels as good as the butterfly timo boll alc blade.

Treiber K.
It's not aralyte perhaps but I think it's a good choice. More appropriate than the treiber z.

Or try one of the new dhs blades which are of remarkable quality and low cost

Edited by Lightzy - 12/27/2017 at 9:22pm

Sanwei f3 pro
Currently using mxp and elp it's a beast. Spins and smashes well
Deadly short or long pushes
Flicks are great if you know how to lol
Also it's a innerforce alc clone. Alc is closer to the core and it's a 5 ply wood + 2 ply alc

Lol that's what you think man tt newbie but not everyone has the same mindset also butterfly is pricey because of popularity. If there was no hype nor buyers than sure they'd foreclose or sell for cheap. It's because people like you who praise them soo highly continue to buy them. Because they know even if they charge an x amount of dollars it'll only take one person to keep it going lol

Also it's like overpriced items vs the same quality elsewhere that's not being a cheap ass it's being practical and realistic

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If you want ALC, simply you have to get butterfly (something like Viscaria, Spirit o TB ALC) are simply superior and no other ALC blades on the market come even close. I mean blade is something you invest and can have it for many years to come or even whole life. If you buy something cheaper (that is advertised similar to Butterfly ALC blades) you will quickly realize that you will spend 60$ on one blade, you wont like it, you will buy another cheap one for 50$ or so and sooner or later you will already spend more than new viscaria/TB alc etc.
I know they are a bit pricey but you get what you pay for. They are simply the best blades on the market when it comes to ALC.
I would simply save up some money and get Viscaria or TB ALC. Consider it as long time investment!