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    Posted: 12/28/2017 at 10:10pm
EmRatThich had an interesting new video on ball/racket contact point.

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No need to update Bayesian priors here.
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My thread is in that video!!
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For some reason I don't buy his contact the ball at the top of the racket during forehand drives theory.
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Originally posted by rocketman222 rocketman222 wrote:

For some reason I don't buy his contact the ball at the top of the racket during forehand drives theory.

The whole region of 3,2 and 3,3 is where most pros contact their shots, even serves despite the claims you can get more spin close to the edge and take advantage of certain things about the racket.   I am actually not as accurate and most of my shots fall in 2,2 to 3,3.

I don't think he is saying anything original so I wouldn't consider any of it his theory. What coaching tends to be about is explain the implications of not contacting the ball in the precise area and giving drills to fix it if it is a big deal. I will photograph my racket sometime my backhand is almost textbook but my forehand is in the 2,2 to 3,3 pocket and sometimes wilder if my technique is changing.
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I might be doing it wrong, but I aim for 2,2 and 3,2 on all my forehand/backhand counters and drives, and 3,3 when looping underspin. I feel that 2,2 and 3, 2 are the most stable spots on the blade.


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I would be lying if I said I aimed for a point on the racket. How my backhand does what it does I have no clue. I just hope the ball makes it except when I am serving no spin and even no spin I still hit the same spot just flatter.
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Kim Jung Hoon is the wild man in the house who says all players should strive to hit CENTER OF MASS with all their shots so the bat will not "Shake" at impact and give unstable control. 
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Originally posted by BH-Man BH-Man wrote:

Kim Jung Hoon is the wild man in the house who says all players should strive to hit CENTER OF MASS with all their shots so the bat will not "Shake" at impact and give unstable control. 


Yet he plays with all wood? Hmm
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To me this is yet another thing where absolutely no good will come of thinking about it. On serves sure, you can hope to precisely control the contact point because you have command of the ball throughout. On every other shot you just try to get your body into the right place to let your swing do what it does.

The longer I play, the fewer things seem helpful to know or think about.
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I hit the ball from 3/5 once am I bad
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I agree with BRS. The sweetest spot of my blade is not the center bit a little further up. Still, it is not zen to tbink about stuff like that on any shot other than serve. Also for me it ,atters on BH a d not on FH. On FH body rotation takes care of the power.
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Good contact point is needed for backhand to get consistent powerful shot. It is near top of the blade head as can be seen in this video someone posted in another thread
Coach hits consistently with contact point between 4,2 and 3,2 
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Originally posted by BRS BRS wrote:

To me this is yet another thing where absolutely no good will come of thinking about it. On serves sure, you can hope to precisely control the contact point because you have command of the ball throughout. On every other shot you just try to get your body into the right place to let your swing do what it does.

The longer I play, the fewer things seem helpful to know or think about.

So it seems you've come around a bit on ERT, haha.
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Not really, I still think ERT's advice is generally good. He is just running out of useful stuff to say about table tennis. Coaches tell us the same few things over and over for a reason, but that repetition won't fly on Youtube.
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Different contact points can be used while serving for deception.
Same movement produces different amount of spin/no-spin
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