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Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:


Well that says ITTF can approve LESS than max No. of entries in case too many want to play. But now they've approved MORE than the max. Zeio we need you - we're missing some technicality here

Yes, this sentence makes no sense ! Once again pure amateurism !
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If I have to guess, the highlighted sentence makes no sense.


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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:


Well that says ITTF can approve LESS than max No. of entries in case too many want to play. But now they've approved MORE than the max. Zeio we need you - we're missing some technicality here

Yes, this sentence makes no sense ! Once again pure amateurism !
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Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

Originally posted by ZingyDNA ZingyDNA wrote:



Well that says ITTF can approve LESS than max No. of entries in case too many want to play. But now they've approved MORE than the max. Zeio we need you - we're missing some technicality here

Yes, this sentence makes no sense ! Once again pure amateurism !



I think they are referring to the maximum number of players per association. If there are too many entries, they might limit each association to less than 6 players per gender for singles, etc.


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Originally posted by reflecx reflecx wrote:

Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

Originally posted by ZingyDNA ZingyDNA wrote:



Well that says ITTF can approve LESS than max No. of entries in case too many want to play. But now they've approved MORE than the max. Zeio we need you - we're missing some technicality here

Yes, this sentence makes no sense ! Once again pure amateurism !



I think they are referring to the maximum number of players per association. If there are too many entries, they might limit each association to less than 6 players per gender for singles, etc.


OK, that makes more sense. Still, the total entries is way more than 170, and they approved over 6 entries for at least China and Japan regardless...
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I'm glad someone overruled the 6 player limit. If you want the best players in the world to actively participate, then you can't have a 6 player limit when China and Japan have so many great players. And I'm sure that sponsors(both tt and non tt) are eager to market to the Chinese and Japanese audience.
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Originally posted by ZingyDNA ZingyDNA wrote:

Originally posted by reflecx reflecx wrote:

Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

Originally posted by ZingyDNA ZingyDNA wrote:


Well that says ITTF can approve LESS than max No. of entries in case too many want to play. But now they've approved MORE than the max. Zeio we need you - we're missing some technicality here
Yes, this sentence makes no sense ! Once again pure amateurism !
I think they are referring to the maximum number of players per association. If there are too many entries, they might limit each association to less than 6 players per gender for singles, etc.


OK, that makes more sense. Still, the total entries is way more than 170, and they approved over 6 entries for at least China and Japan regardless...
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It has been this way all along. Each event has a limit (shown at the bottom of the prospectus), when the limit is exceeded - country that has more than 6 players per gender, the extra players are put on the WL (waiting list). In the end ALL of them get to play including those on WL. (ITTF removed the WL behind those players' names just before starting.)

2018 Hungarian Open is the only exception, ITTF enforced the rule on that one - those on WL didn't get to play.

All other ITTF tournaments, they never enforced the rule - everybody get to play.


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Where are the results up to date posted ?
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Now 2018 Qatar Open, before starting, ITTF removed all "WL" designation behind those players who have that.  Everybody gets to play.

Apparently ITTF thinks that enforcing the rule in that Hungarian Open was a bad idea, they choose to return to the old way of letting everybody play.  They must think that letting everybody play is good for table tennis.
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Ding Ning, Liu Shiwen, Sun Yingsha, Mu Zi and several other Chinese female players will play in the "Qualification Groups".
On men's side: Fang Bo, Zhou Yu, Xue Fei, Liu Dingshuo and Wang Chuqin will play in the "Qualification Groups".

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If promising young players, in the "qualification" stage, should run into these players - they will have a hard time to advance to the Main Draw.  These Chinese players are stronger than some of the seeded players.


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That's a good point.  This new ranking system has really wreaked havoc in both the qualification groups and main draw.  If they were so adamant to use this system, then I would rather have them start with last year's rankings/points as a baseline for rankings and then in 2018, start accumulating the best of 8 results.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kindof99 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02/14/2018 at 11:41am
Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Now 2018 Qatar Open, before starting, ITTF removed all "WL" designation behind those players who have that.  Everybody gets to play.

Apparently ITTF thinks that enforcing the rule in that Hungarian Open was a bad idea, they choose to return to the old way of letting everybody play.  They must think that letting everybody play is good for table tennis.

Too much assumption from a little fact...
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That's all facts.
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Those on the W.L. are all approved, everybody gets to play.
Ain't that great!!!!!

The only time that ITTF enforced the rule (limiting 6 players per gender per Association) was 2018 Hungarian Open. Later, they decided that's a bad idea.
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After Qatar Open, will be German Open.
Everybody gets to play in German Open too.



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Ding Ning probably will be able to enter the Top 10 in April ...
Liu Shi Wen - if she can reach the semifinals, then there is a chance to get into the Top 10 ...
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This rule has been revoked or cancelled:  Separation of players from the same National Association in the qualification stage and the first round of the Main Draw.

Two Chinese players may very well run into each other early, depending on the draw.
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https://www.ittf.com/2018/03/03/injury-forces-dimitrij-ovtcharov-withdraw-qatar-open/

Yes, compete for Qatar titles is some toil. Dima always seeking for easy money,

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By the way, Petrissia Solja a week ago withdrew the application ....
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A Chinese player will knock out another Chinese player.

In women singles qualification group:
Liu Shiwen and Wu Yang are in the same group.
So are Hu Limei and Che Xiaoxi.
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Bad draw for Kihara Miyuu (JPN) and Khetkhuan Tamolwan (THA) - They are in the same group with Ding Ning.


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Wow, Ding Ning will start from qualification. The non-Chinese players might have chance before. Now their frustration will start at beginning.
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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

A Chinese player will knock out another Chinese player.

In women singles qualification group:
Liu Shiwen and Wu Yang are in the same group.
So are Hu Limei and Che Xiaoxi.
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Bad draw for Kihara Miyuu (JPN) and Khetkhuan Tamolwan - They are in the same group with Ding Ning.


Oh... Hu Limei and Che Xiaoxi.  JEON Jihee....group of death .....Dead
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Qualif., WS
21 Group = 10 Chinese girls ...
From each group comes only one participant ....21 participants, a maximum of 8 Chinese women ...
Next, preliminari round ...16 people left ...
5-6 Chinese women will pass, I believe, in R-32, in addition to 4 seeded .....
The quaterfinal  WS will be at least 7 Chinese women ......


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Pitchford 4:3 Xue Fei

Pitchford is so underrated.
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Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Pitchford 4:3 Xue Fei

Pitchford is so underrated.

Pitchford - WR 53;
Xue Fei - WR 153.

Indeed, one has to be a retard to take the WR seriously.
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Pitchford 4:3 Xue Fei

Pitchford is so underrated.

Pitchford - WR 53;
Xue Fei - WR 153.

Indeed, one has to be a retard to take the WR seriously.

Come on, zeio.  We all know that the reigning WJTTC is a FAR better player than the British Champion.  Or we know he should be a far better player.  A 100 ranking places difference means nothing when the lower rated player is Chinese.

That the ranking predicted this means nothing.  After all, it also predicted WCT over Harimoto...
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What happened on Table 1?
Ding Ning was playing (I did not watch when started.)
The first game played only 4 points.
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Update:  Now 2 men players are there.



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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Pitchford 4:3 Xue Fei

Pitchford is so underrated.

Pitchford - WR 53;
Xue Fei - WR 153.

Indeed, one has to be a retard to take the WR seriously.


Come on, zeio.  We all know that the reigning WJTTC is a FAR better player than the British Champion.  Or we know he should be a far better player.  A 100 ranking places difference means nothing when the lower rated player is Chinese.

That the ranking predicted this means nothing.  After all, it also predicted WCT over Harimoto...

That's the problem. People bashed the WR only when it failed to predict correctly. What about the other times when it predicted right? No one talked about it because people failed instead.
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Table 1, somewhat earlier, Ding Ning vs someone.
Played a total of 4 points, then stopped.
One of the 2 players might have been injured.
But don't know which one.


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M Karlsson 4:3 LDS

Mattias Karlsson - 31
Liu Dingshuo - 168

Who believed in the WR?
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Pitchford 4:3 Xue Fei

Pitchford is so underrated.

Pitchford - WR 53;
Xue Fei - WR 153.

Indeed, one has to be a retard to take the WR seriously.


Yes, only a retart would believe that
Xue Fei is the 153rd best player in the world.
He is easily a top 20 player in the world imo.

Pitchford is also much better than his ranking
suggests, should be somewhere in the top 20~25.

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