Which Long Pips Rubber ?

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Edited by MydasDiablo - 09/29/2019 at 2:18am

ChichoFicho wrote: For close to the table block/attack style Grass D.tecs OX is by far the best. It was recommended to me by Nurdin Saparbaev, a master from Kyrgyzstan. For chopping - Curl P-H is the most disturbing.

At Revspin.net a rubber review website Globe 979 Cost $9 is rated slightly higher than Grass DTecS.

Played cheap LP rubbers for years, now I am trying an expensive one.

Edited by skip3119 - 08/16/2018 at 11:55am

benfb wrote: skip3119 wrote: I use LP, Dawei 388D-1. During hitting back-and-forth in a game, I lost lots of points when the guy sent me an under-spin ball. LP is supposed to be less sensitive to spin but not INSENSITVE, lots of my returns go right into the net. One of my clubmates who chops and blocks with LP recently switched to Dawai Magic Kingdom 388D-1.  It seems to the rest of us that his game picked up about a hundred rating points.  Chops and blocks both seem to have much stronger spin reversal than before and his ability to punch with it is much more dangerous.  The pips seem very slick, like in the old days when true slick LP rubbers were still legal.  It seems like a very potent rubber. And the packaging (which is mostly in Chinese) has an emblem that says "Light curing certification".  What's that?

This is what I bought:

Edited by skip3119 - 04/27/2018 at 12:11pm

Edited by Egghead - 04/27/2018 at 11:13am

skip3119 wrote: skip3119 wrote: Egghead: Do you think this light-cured 388D-1 plays better than regular 388D-1? (benfb swear by it.) =========== I paid $34.23 for 5 sheets ($6.85 per sheet), the money (via Paypal) was sent to the Agent. The Agent would then buy the rubber and ship to me. The final cost is unknown, because I don't know how much the Agent will charge me for his service. (I was unsuccessful to buy directly from Taobao, it never took me to the check-out, tried for 2 hours.) ================= Received the Dawei 388D-1 (light cured) rubber today. It has ITTF logo on the package, and ITTF logo on the rubber. The agent charged me $21 (shipping/handling/services). Total cost of 5 sheets:  $34.23+$21.00 = $55.23. Or $11.05 per sheet. If you just buy 1 sheet, it will be much higher than $11.05. If you buy 10 sheets, then per sheet will be lower than $11.05.

skip3119 wrote: Egghead: Do you think this light-cured 388D-1 plays better than regular 388D-1? (benfb swear by it.) =========== I paid $34.23 for 5 sheets ($6.85 per sheet), the money (via Paypal) was sent to the Agent. The Agent would then buy the rubber and ship to me. The final cost is unknown, because I don't know how much the Agent will charge me for his service. (I was unsuccessful to buy directly from Taobao, it never took me to the check-out, tried for 2 hours.)

Edited by skip3119 - 04/26/2018 at 3:48pm

Veet wrote: No access to a robot, and I cannot afford to buy one. I'm trying to convince a fellow club-member to practice with me, regularly.

"On my back-hand, I want to rely most on the ability to control the ball (place it where-ever I want to), spin (chop/push on and away from the table), and whack the ball away, when a CLEAR/PLUM opportunity to do so arises. On the FH-side - I'd be a tad more aggressive. Think of me as a right-handed boxer - using the left-hand (BH in TT) to jab-jab-jab, and then deliver the know-out with the right (FH in TT)"

Based on this, I would recommend trying Dr Evil. It's technically a SP rubber that is approved for usatt hardbat competition. It has some LP like properties when blocking against loop and is an excellent chopping rubber. high balls can be attacked easily. This is a good rubber to try on your way to finding out whether you really want to end up with LP because its very easy to play with.

It's a $10 rubber, so cheap to try. I have it on a blade to do some chopping for fun every so often.

benfb wrote: I don't play with long pips, but I spend a lot of time playing against LP, and I've even tough some people how to use them.  So this is my two cents worth of advice: First, the style of play you use is going to depend a lot upon your choice of rubber and your personality.  In my club, for example, we've got a couple of people that have LP with a modest amount of friction.  Their defense isn't as good (harder to block strong loops), but they can attack more and create more aggressive situations.  At the other extreme, we've got the guy I mentioned early in this thread with the illegal frictionless LP.  Interestingly, he's doesn't play the pushblocker style (which is what I usually association with frictionless LP), but uses a mix of true off-the-table chopping with punches from near the table.  Then we've got another guy with sort of "average" LP and he does a lot of chop blocks near the table and also some aggressive kill shots (hard to make, even hard to return).

I don't play with long pips, but I spend a lot of time playing against LP, and I've even tough some people how to use them.  So this is my two cents worth of advice:

I have noticed that my results with LP on BH are better when i try to be aggressive with the LP side, whenever possible. That means for my game maybe about 30% of the time. Relying on passive blocks only is just an easy pray for any reasonable opponent.

Veet wrote: ... Yesterday, I got totally CREAMED by 2 players, who play at my level... Now, I don't find it difficult to keep the ball in play.. Now, the real challenge is to put EFFECTIVE balls... I noticed, that both the above players, gave me light-to-heavy loops/top-spins. .  Even when I did manage to return (which was not too often), my returns seemed to be empty. The players had little or no trouble, no matter, how I returned...Both players, pushed very little.. I even twiddled to generate spin, but it did not work ..One player, actually commented that now he found it easier to play against me (using LPs), as compared to when I was using inverted... Which is true, cause, with the inverted, I would typically win 5 out of 7 games against him. ....

I currently use palio ck531 a which I try and attack with with 0.6mm sponge, I guess hellfire would be better for me
than dtecs
to try and attack