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Xiying 979, cheap and efficient

You can't use it in sanctioned events anymore.. It's coming off the authorized rubbers list..
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Originally posted by Pushblocker Pushblocker wrote:

If you want control, I would recommend CTT National Pogo or Friendship 755.. Both are high control rubbers, ideal for anyone starting to play with long pips.. I have tried over 30 different long pips and Pogo has the best control. It's not very funky and does not bother opponents like other rubbers but it is a perfect rubber for control and to learn to play with long pip.. It does everything well but nothing great.. In my opinion, Pogo is the best allround long pips rubber. I would recommend OX unless you plan on chopping far away from the table..

I've been doing a lot of reading on Pogo, and the more I read, the more I tend to agree with your recommendation.. The downside is that it's not available in any store (offline or online), in India... 

Anyway, as for the blade, which one would you recommend ?
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Originally posted by Veet Veet wrote:

Hi,

I'm also wondering about ones like Giant Dragon Crop Circles, and Spinlord Donenglanz (A tad more expensive)..

Also, my current Blade is a 23+year old <span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;"> </span><span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">Butterfly Joyner -H AN (OFF) ply... This the "Made in Japan" one, with the Metal tag on the handle. If I am to switch to a LP, shall I stick with this ply or switch to another one, for best LP effect ..</span>



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Both good rubbers, but too advanced for you.

I would go with a defensive blade or an all around inexpensive one.
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Originally posted by Veet Veet wrote:

Hi,

I'm also wondering about ones like Giant Dragon Crop Circles, and Spinlord Donenglanz (A tad more expensive)..

Also, my current Blade is a 23+year old  Butterfly Joyner -H AN (OFF) ply... This the "Made in Japan" one, with the Metal tag on the handle. If I am to switch to a LP, shall I stick with this ply or switch to another one, for best LP effect ..

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Xiying 979, cheap and efficient
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Dawei 388D-1 is the most popular LP rubber used in China.
One of our club's top players uses that, he is a 2300+ player.
I use the same LP, 388D-1, but I am 600 rating points below him.
Dawei 388D-1 is very cheap.

It is not the rubber, it is the skill that counts.


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Hi,

Thank you, to everyone of here, for their suggestions ...

To start-off with LPs, I'm thinking of getting one that's cheap. Perhaps, one of the Chinese ones.. From all the above recommendations, the Dawei 388D-1 seems like an option. I'm also wondering about ones like Giant Dragon Crop Circles, and Spinlord Donenglanz (A tad more expensive)..

Also, my current Blade is a 23+year old  Butterfly Joyner -H AN (OFF) ply... This the "Made in Japan" one, with the Metal tag on the handle. If I am to switch to a LP, shall I stick with this ply or switch to another one, for best LP effect ..


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Work on your long pips fundamentals, then later you can pick a long pips that closely fits your desired playing style. Watch videos of the Pushblocker is a good place to learn.
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Close to the table means you have to go into it planning to block and hit some. Chopping is essentially out. Pushblocking and dead blocking are in. 
Almost any of the prior mentioned rubbers can work for you. Probably the best thing you can do is get one (preferably a cheap one), go OX and stick with it. The LP EJ junkie journey can be very, very, very long with little benefit.
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Although not a LP, Dr Neubauer Nugget might do the job you want it to. The recent review by TT-Maximum showed it to be very versatile with its stand out feature being bucket loads of control. 



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Palio ck531a is also a good candidate and cheap.
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Hi Pushblocker, Firetack,

Thanks for the suggestions ... 

I've heard of Dawei, but this is first I'm hearing of CTT or Pogo..

Anyway, I did some reading-up on it, and it seems to have very good control ...and has received mostly positive reviews..


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388d-1 ia a good place to start,if you want to attack as well get it with sponge 0.5,give it enough Time and it will pay off eventually when your reading of lp gets better so will control
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If you want control, I would recommend CTT National Pogo or Friendship 755.. Both are high control rubbers, ideal for anyone starting to play with long pips.. I have tried over 30 different long pips and Pogo has the best control. It's not very funky and does not bother opponents like other rubbers but it is a perfect rubber for control and to learn to play with long pip.. It does everything well but nothing great.. In my opinion, Pogo is the best allround long pips rubber. I would recommend OX unless you plan on chopping far away from the table..

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Originally posted by LUCKYLOOP LUCKYLOOP wrote:


Dawei OX 388d-1 soft with good control and versatility.

Inexpensive too

Thanks LuckyLOOP.... I'll surely check it out ... Is your recommendation based on your own experience with it ?
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Dawei OX 388d-1 soft with good control and versatility.

Inexpensive too

Edited by LUCKYLOOP - 02/07/2018 at 4:56am
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Hi,

I'm thinking of switching to a Long Pips Rubber. Thought I'll do some research, but now, that has confused me even more... So many parameters, and to make things more confusing, so my sponge thicknesses.. 

I'm considering switching to a LP on my BH  due to :
  • A Recent elbow injury
  • Cannot move my feet as quickly as I could. .. I'm still working on this.I want to control the pace of the point.
  • My BH loop, drive, and top-spin technique is not on par. I genuinely tried .. even improved a bit, but now with the elbow injury has set my back, infact, made things worse.
On the FH, I can drive, loop, top-spin fairly well.. Over-all, I rely more on placement, angles, and tact, rather than speed, and power. I prefer slowing the point down, and dictating it at my pace.. I play close, but will move back, mid-distance, if the situation demands... 

Require LP recommendations, taking the following into consideration : 
  • My level is beginner - intermediate, but I would be new to long pips..
  • I require Control, Control and then some more ... I want to be able to place the ball wherever, at whatever pace..
  • I prefer over-the-table/close-to-table, pushing, chopping, with Heavy Spin.. So a LP rubber that can generate a decent amount of it's own Spin. My game is primarily push/chop on the BH, and Loop/Topspin on the FH. 
  • On the BH, I also Drive the ball, when the opportunity presents itself.
  • I typically dead-block top-spins to my BH .. But, if I happen to be away, I'll also chop back.
  • Would prefer Medium Spin-Reversal .. I understand that both, Spin and Spin reversal is not possible with the same rubber.
  • Low-Medium Deception... It would only be a bonus.
  • Thickness of the sponge
  • I'm a tad cost sensitive.. 
Thanks for taking the trouble of going through this rather lengthy post ...




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