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BTW: this shows the precision mode controls in the robot - see how you can even control (to some extent) the amount of randomness in the balls.


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There's no issue on how fast the robot can switch from backspin to topspin. I don't notice anything. However there are quite a few bugs related to the drill settings, loading precision mode drills, and managing self created drills, etc. The overall experience is still quite lacking, not exactly what are showing in the videos.
However, all of these issues can be potentially fixed by future app updates, which, according to my coversation with their technical support, should be upcoming soon. I'll have to wait and see.

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Their customer services/technical support folks are quite responsive so far.
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Damned, it looks so complicated !!!! I prefer the newgy 2050.
There is also a 2055 now. easier to use and with good exercices already available.
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If 3050 really works as it's design to be, it is totally at a different level of 2050. But now with the bugs to be fixed, I suggest you wait a little longer.
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Originally posted by TTslurp TTslurp wrote:

Slevin, the Youtube movie say Robopong 3050xl need special balls. But I wonder if it work good with ordinary plastic balls?

I don't think it says that.  I think it says to only use recommended balls...which I would assume are just 40+ balls.  

I will be in the market for a machine soon and this thread has been very useful.  Thanks to all who contributed so far!
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Originally posted by Bilbo Bilbo wrote:

Originally posted by TTslurp TTslurp wrote:

Slevin, the Youtube movie say Robopong 3050xl need special balls. But I wonder if it work good with ordinary plastic balls?


I don't think it says that.  I think it says to only use recommended balls...which I would assume are just 40+ balls.  

I will be in the market for a machine soon and this thread has been very useful.  Thanks to all who contributed so far!


I can confirm. The user manual says 40+ balls, which is basically what they recommend.
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after seeing few videos, I believe the robopong 3050xl shall have this feature to help practice serve, in fact, newgy has everything, may be some ee / it guy here can hack the robopong. Wink
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Thanks everyone!
Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

I don't think that the head rotates.

I've seen a video on the Newgy website where the head rotates.

Regarding the precision that someone mentioned, I think the variation in balls has a lot to do with this, as no robot can be accurate with variations in ball size and shape. Balls used are only training balls, 3* balls may show some improvement.
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Originally posted by haggisv haggisv wrote:

Thanks everyone!
Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

I don't think that the head rotates.

I've seen a video on the Newgy website where the head rotates.

Regarding the precision that someone mentioned, I think the variation in balls has a lot to do with this, as no robot can be accurate with variations in balls. Balls used are only training balls, 3* may show some improvement.



Of course the head rotates. But that's for side spins.
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Originally posted by wanchope wanchope wrote:

There's no issue on how fast the robot can switch from backspin to topspin.

If that's the case that's impressive, because it takes considerable power (current) to change the speed from high to low in a short time period, and that's what's required if you want to change from topspin to backspin. Perhaps the timing will be noticable if you change from maximum backspin to maximum topspin.

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The only thing that I don't like about the design of these bots is that the head can't slide the width of the table or come off the end of the table. It can't really simulate human training which involves multiball from the sides and simulate blocking from different positions. I suppose if say you wanted to practice down the line you could move the Newgy to the corner but you have to drag the net along. The 1050 is much better suited to swap positions. If only the 1050 had multiple motors and the rotation head....

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Originally posted by CroNone CroNone wrote:

The only thing that I don't like about the design of these bots is that the head can't slide the width of the table or come off the end of the table. It can't really simulate human training which involves multiball from the sides and simulate blocking from different positions.


There is the Newstar 2080CR ...



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I just got the Newgy 3050XL last week. The setup was easy and I was up and going soon. However, faced some issues. Would be great if other owners can comment.

1. Just right out of the box, when I turn it on, it produces a high frequency noise. Is this normal?
2. On the third day, when I tried to connect it through the app, it got stuck in the "Calibrating..." screen. It was clear that the phone bluetooth was able to connect to the device. But it was not proceeding any further. After trying for half an hour it finally worked.
3. On the third day, it is able to connect, but the ball doesn't shoot out. It falls down with very low force as if the motor that is supposed to push it is not working at all.

Has anyone faced this issue? Did I get a bad unit?
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I think it is best that you ask the manufacturer - they should remedy this for you.
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Originally posted by CroNone CroNone wrote:

The only thing that I don't like about the design of these bots is that the head can't slide the width of the table or come off the end of the table. It can't really simulate human training which involves multiball from the sides and simulate blocking from different positions. 

Do you know about TenniRobo http://youtu.be/vscnrkkSr94 ? It has a lot of functions and can be placed anywhere around the table, so it makes very realistic balls


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Lol, that’s what I do. Use a spread sheet on my iPad and just go to that memory location.

By far the dumbest thing I’ve done with my new amicus is not throw enough balls in the catcher. I always used the one at the club and if you throw a couple of balls in the net a couple of balls come back out. Never thought about there being a stack on balls in the neck already. So I set up my new machine and threw 6 balls in to calibrate and no balls came out. I check the cables, the balls seemed to feed and couldn’t understand why they weren’t coming out. Thought it fed the balls all the way up. Wasn’t until I took the head off and ran it that I realized it was just pushing them from the bottom.

And to everyone, it does put a little side spin on wide balls. At first I use to add opposite spin on wide balls to counter it. But real life play, most wide shots do have side spin so now I just leave it.
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