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    Posted: 03/10/2018 at 3:13am
Greetings Everyone,

Hope this is OK. Getting back into TT after 10 years away. The last time I glued something, it was the old school Butterfly Chack that came in a small tube like toothpaste.  That stuff smelled noxious. I still have one tube - but my guess is that if I tried it, it would already be all dried up after more than a decade. 

SO....I have Tenergy 05 and an old Hinoki Jpen blade.  My friend gave me a tiny bottle of XIOM I-Bond waterbased glue.  There's about 20% left in the bottle.

Questions:

1. Is 20% enough to glue a rubber sheet?

2. My understanding is that i spread it out on blade and rubber, let dry, and then put them together. 
Should I do double later of glue on each surface after one layer dries?  Or is one layer on each wood/rubber surface enough? 

3. how long to dry Generally? 

4. Anything else I should know about XIOM I-Bond?  Good glue? 

5. I have no problem cutting the rubber after it is glued so that part is good. 

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Put on a layer, let it dry for 10 mins/turn clear,

Then put on another layer(thicker) and let it turn clear, then glue the blade with generous glue layer and wait for 1-2 minutes max

Stick together and roll with something/press on table

Done!
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Use a hair dryer when applying each layer. It's much faster.
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" 1. Is 20% enough to glue a rubber sheet? "

Its more than enough for a pc of rubber; with lots of spare.

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Take care not to stretch the rubber when tou attach it. We used to do thst in speed glue days but Tenergy is not designed for thst
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Thanks everyone for responding. 

Just to reconforim SmackDat advice, the rubber gets TWO layers, and dry/clear. 

Then after that, one layer on the blade and JOIN together BEFORE it dries on the blade? 

I thought it was meant to dry on both surfaces - apparently not? 

Thanks again everyone! 

Originally posted by SmackDAT SmackDAT wrote:

Put on a layer, let it dry for 10 mins/turn clear,

Then put on another layer(thicker) and let it turn clear, then glue the blade with generous glue layer and wait for 1-2 minutes max

Stick together and roll with something/press on table

Done!
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Originally posted by MTMT MTMT wrote:

Thanks everyone for responding. 

Just to reconforim SmackDat advice, the rubber gets TWO layers, and dry/clear. 

Then after that, one layer on the blade and JOIN together BEFORE it dries on the blade? 

I thought it was meant to dry on both surfaces - apparently not? 

Thanks again everyone! 

Originally posted by SmackDAT SmackDAT wrote:

Put on a layer, let it dry for 10 mins/turn clear,

Then put on another layer(thicker) and let it turn clear, then glue the blade with generous glue layer and wait for 1-2 minutes max

Stick together and roll with something/press on table

Done!


Both sponge and blade should be dry (he mentioned wait 1-2 min though I suggest using a hair dryer), then stick together using something like a rolling pin.
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some top plies of blades might splinter or split after you take the rubber off due to the glue, so as a precaution it's best to seal the blade with blade sealant before you glue the rubber on the blade
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