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F.T. and C.I.C. in the ITTF ranking for May both will be at the bottom of the Top-10...
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The women's team of Japan will have to play again with Ukraine ..Will Hina Hayata take part again?


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Couple of Questions for equipment used

Ball used Butterfly - how does it play compared to a Nittaku Premium and a DHS D40+ ?

DHS table used - how does it play compared to a Stiga and Butterfly ?
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Is this how it works?

The worst two teams in the Championships division go down to the Second division next time.
The best two teams in the Second division go up to the Championships division next time.
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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Is this how it works?

The worst two teams in the Championships division go down to the Second division next time.
The best two teams in the Second division go up to the Championships division next time.

That is what I thought too, but looks like the current one is using the top 3 players rating for the team.
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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Is this how it works?

The worst two teams in the Championships division go down to the Second division next time.
The best two teams in the Second division go up to the Championships division next time.


if china has stronger players than germany why chinese team is in the 2nd group?

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Ukraine reach the quarter final. Great efford by a minnow.
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Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Ukraine reach the quarter final. Great efford by a minnow.


82 ranked Kanak Jha now has wins over the 56th and 43rd ranked players.

Iran and the U.S. both went 4-1 in their group.  What happens next?


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Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

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if china has stronger players than germany why chinese team is in the 2nd group?


Not by world ranking at the time seeding was determined.
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Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Ukraine reach the quarter final. Great efford by a minnow.


82 ranked Kanak Jha now has wins over the 56th and 43rd ranked players.

Iran and the U.S. both went 4-1 in their group.  What happens next?



Depends on ranking rules of the tournament. Usually head-to-head result determines the ranking between two team with the same number of wins/losses. Did the US beat Iran?
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Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:


Iran and the U.S. both went 4-1 in their group.  What happens next?

It appears that Iran finished 1st (by beating USA 3-2) and will have a bye in the knockout stage, and USA finished 2nd and will play against a 3rd-place team from one of the other groups (Netherlands, Argentina or Greece).



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France is gone. So much being the 4th seed.
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Iran and USA both have a win-loss record of 4-1.
Head-to-head result is the tie-breaker. (Iran beat USA).

Iran took the #1 place in the group.


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Too bad (IMO) about the San Jose bid for the 2020 Worlds being withdrawn. I was looking forward to possibly going to see that. I guess a longer trip to Korea or Russia will be needed.
USA teams won't have the host country spot and will have to play their way into the Championship Division. Both the women's and men's teams would automatically qualify by winning 3 straight knockout matches.

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Gonna be a bad day for jackwong23.
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Gonna be a bad day for jackwong23.


so you have started your taunting.
what I say or done today to upset you ?
You simply have to behave like a moron, do you.

Stop behaving like a childish 5 yearold.


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Some of the men's championship knockout draw making was shown on Instagram - @ittfworld

Anyways, in men's 2nd division, USA will play Netherlands. If they win, they will have a rematch with Iran.


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See if this link works, men's Second division, knock-out rounds:

Open the window, just below the top line (with a down arrow), click that down arrow.
Select Men's Second division.

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The above link is all you need. You can select other divisions to see other knock-out rounds.  (Just open that window which has a down-arrow on the right. Click that down-arrow.)


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Originally posted by dewnyc dewnyc wrote:

Some of the men's championship knockout draw making was shown on Instagram - @ittfworld

Anyways, in men's 2nd division, USA will play Netherlands. If they win, they will have a rematch with Iran.


Thanks for the information.  Stefan Feth has done a great job with the U.S. team.  One 15 year old, two 17 year old's and a 21 year old.
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My predictions for the upcoming rounds of SE

Men's:
Brazil beats Croatia 3-2
Japan beats Hong Kong 3-1
Sweden beats Taiwan 3-2
Austria beats Portugal 3-2

Women's: (2nd stage of SE)
China beats Austria 3-0
Hong Kong beats Romania 3-1
S.Korea beats N.Korea 3-1
Japan beats Ukraine 3-0

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Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

Originally posted by dewnyc dewnyc wrote:

Some of the men's championship knockout draw making was shown on Instagram - @ittfworld

Anyways, in men's 2nd division, USA will play Netherlands. If they win, they will have a rematch with Iran.


Thanks for the information.  Stefan Feth has done a great job with the U.S. team.  One 15 year old, two 17 year old's and a 21 year old.


I am hoping USA wins vs Netherlands. They are certainly quite capable of that, I would say, 60-40 % chance. And then they actually might have a good chance vs Iran.
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

My predictions for the upcoming rounds of SE

Men's:
Brazil beats Croatia 3-2
Japan beats Hong Kong 3-1
Sweden beats Taiwan 3-2
Austria beats Portugal 3-2

Women's: (2nd stage of SE)
China beats Austria 3-0
Hong Kong beats Romania 3-1
S.Korea beats N.Korea 3-1
Japan beats Ukraine 3-0




These predictions look good to me.
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Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

Originally posted by dewnyc dewnyc wrote:

Some of the men's championship knockout draw making was shown on Instagram - @ittfworld

Anyways, in men's 2nd division, USA will play Netherlands. If they win, they will have a rematch with Iran.


Thanks for the information.  Stefan Feth has done a great job with the U.S. team.  One 15 year old, two 17 year old's and a 21 year old.
The 15 year old Nikhil Kumar is also having a great tournament.  He hasn't lost a match that I can recall. He plays only 1 match in the team format. Yijung Feng is not having a great tournament as his win percentage is less than 50%. Perhaps Nikhil should be elevated over Feng.  Kanak has only lost to his nemesis, Iran's Noshad Alamiyian. He lost to the same guy in the  Rio Olympics. He makes Kanak retreat into a blocking game and overpowers him. Hopefully Kanak and Stefan can solve that.
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Originally posted by Tiggs_1 Tiggs_1 wrote:

Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

Originally posted by dewnyc dewnyc wrote:

Some of the men's championship knockout draw making was shown on Instagram - @ittfworld


Anyways, in men's 2nd division, USA will play Netherlands. If they win, they will have a rematch with Iran.


Thanks for the information.  Stefan Feth has done a great job with the U.S. team.  One 15 year old, two 17 year old's and a 21 year old.


The 15 year old Nikhil Kumar is also having a great tournament.  He hasn't lost a match that I can recall. He plays only 1 match in the team format. Yijung Feng is not having a great tournament as his win percentage is less than 50%. Perhaps Nikhil should be elevated over Feng.  Kanak has only lost to his nemesis, Iran's Noshad Alamiyian. He lost to the same guy in the  Rio Olympics. He makes Kanak retreat into a blocking game and overpowers him. Hopefully Kanak and Stefan can solve that.


Kumar has lost at least 1 match. I watched it. Don't remember, think it was vs Egypt team.
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Originally posted by LUCKYLOOP LUCKYLOOP wrote:

Originally posted by Tiggs_1 Tiggs_1 wrote:

Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

Originally posted by dewnyc dewnyc wrote:

Some of the men's championship knockout draw making was shown on Instagram - @ittfworld


Anyways, in men's 2nd division, USA will play Netherlands. If they win, they will have a rematch with Iran.


Thanks for the information.  Stefan Feth has done a great job with the U.S. team.  One 15 year old, two 17 year old's and a 21 year old.


The 15 year old Nikhil Kumar is also having a great tournament.  He hasn't lost a match that I can recall. He plays only 1 match in the team format. Yijung Feng is not having a great tournament as his win percentage is less than 50%. Perhaps Nikhil should be elevated over Feng.  Kanak has only lost to his nemesis, Iran's Noshad Alamiyian. He lost to the same guy in the  Rio Olympics. He makes Kanak retreat into a blocking game and overpowers him. Hopefully Kanak and Stefan can solve that.


Kumar has lost at least 1 match. I watched it. Don't remember, think it was vs Egypt team.

He lost to Ricardo Jiminez of Spain in the fifth game at 11-13. That was his only loss.  You can look it up below.
https://bornandiag680.blob.core.windows.net/tt2018/TTE2904_TTEMTEAM------------S2GP08--------_N02_v21.pdf
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Sorry..Ricardo Jimenez of Puerto Rico.  
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

My predictions for the upcoming rounds of SE

Men's:
Brazil beats Croatia 3-2
Japan beats Hong Kong 3-1
Sweden beats Taiwan 3-2
Austria beats Portugal 3-2

Women's: (2nd stage of SE)
China beats Austria 3-0
Hong Kong beats Romania 3-1
S.Korea beats N.Korea 3-1
Japan beats Ukraine 3-0

WCT shall win 2 matches LOLLOLLOLLOL
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Originally posted by Egghead Egghead wrote:

Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

My predictions for the upcoming rounds of SE

Men's:
Brazil beats Croatia 3-2
Japan beats Hong Kong 3-1
Sweden beats Taiwan 3-2
Austria beats Portugal 3-2

Women's: (2nd stage of SE)
China beats Austria 3-0
Hong Kong beats Romania 3-1
S.Korea beats N.Korea 3-1
Japan beats Ukraine 3-0

WCT shall win 2 matches LOLLOLLOLLOL
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If history is any guide, that should be the case.
We will see.


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The 15 year old Nikhil Kumar is also having a great tournament.  He hasn't lost a match that I can recall. He plays only 1 match in the team format. Yijung Feng is not having a great tournament as his win percentage is less than 50%. Perhaps Nikhil should be elevated over Feng.  Kanak has only lost to his nemesis, Iran's Noshad Alamiyian. He lost to the same guy in the  Rio Olympics. He makes Kanak retreat into a blocking game and overpowers him. Hopefully Kanak and Stefan can solve that.
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I agree with that.
There is a good chance that Iran and USA will have a rematch.

There are only 3 Iranian players, Feng has played two, and lost to both.
Worse, Feng lost both matches:  0-3.


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Women DPR-Korea ?
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Women DPR-Korea ?

Yes.... It is strange how they were allowed to merge DURING the tournament...

EDIT: I am happy that it happened though. It was now or never I guess


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