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Currently, I wear whatever I happen to be wearing - basketball shoes, walking shoes, hiking boots etc. 

Is there something unique about TT shoes that make them particularly suited for TT? And are there shoes from other sports that 'cross apply' to TT? 

And are there particular brand/models that offer high 'bang for the buck' values? 

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Yes, mostly lateral movement support (side-to-side) and yes it does cross over multi discipline in sports :)

Personally I use Asics Gel-blast 5, i've had these for 5 years and they are still doing their job !!!

This thread is on the same topic, 
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?14569-Table-tennis-shoes

Mizuno TT shoes...
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?15461-Why-many-Chinese-players-play-with-Mizuno-Wave-Drive-7

More shoes threads but has a spin on why to choose a type of shoe from a poster called UpSidedownCarl..
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?15046-Need-a-Pair-of-Shoes

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I use standard Adidas trainers but I do believe that because of the lateral movement a thinner sole would be better since there is less a chance of twisting my ankle. Standard trainers are not exactly designed for this lateral movement.

So I am looking to get a pair of Stiga table tennis shoes now. TT shoes also have a gum sole or non-marking sole which is better for wooden floors. 
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I use volleyball shoes. Asics Gel - 7, now looking at Asics Gel - 8 as mine have worn out. They are great in both design, fit, comfort, traction, light weight, and amazing at lateral movement.

The only thing different in volleyball shoes from TT shoes or Badminton shoes is that volleyball shoes have more padding - they are designed to soften the jumps. Probably adds a bit more weight, but for me, since I'm diabetic, it actually is better long term.
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I have a lot of difficulty buying appropriate shoes in regional Australia.  Sports shoe stores are almost exclusively focussed on sports which are not primarily lateral movement.  I can choose from a really wide range of running shoes - normal, pronation, supination, curved last, straight last, low drop, and a dozen different brands - but there are zero table tennis shoes, no volleyball shoes, perhaps one or two tennis shoes and half a dozen basketball shoes (which are primarily fashion items for kids who don't know how to wear clothes). 

The best I can manage are Innov8 cross trainers - which I had to ask a sports store to get in for me.
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Its no different here in the San Francisco Bay Area as nobody carries TT shoes so its internet and even then the issue of inventory in your size whatever it may be is a constant challenge. My current shoes are Donic speedflex 2 that I purchased from a shop in Canada since they had my size in stock!!!!!! Many online retailers list TT shoes but are sold out of your size.
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Thanks everyone for the reply.  Very helpful. 

I will be purchasing a pair then...

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I'm still searching for a perfect TT shoe..... CryCryCry

So far ive tried:
Mizuno: Wave Drive 8, Wave Medal 5, Wave Medal Z Special Edition (current)
Asics: Gel Court Control

Its so hard to find a shoe that fits you properly that its almost like looking for a your perfect blade.

My criteria for a perfect TT shoe are: light weight, good cushioning, soft grip, breathable and soft upper, good ankle support. So far Wave Medal Z SE are closest but not perfect.

Ive also tried basketball, tennis, indoor soccer shoes and none of these worked for me. I've even stopped caring how much the shoe costs... as long as its good.



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yonex makes badminton shoes that are perfect for table tennis
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Originally posted by viva viva wrote:

yonex makes badminton shoes that are perfect for table tennis
 

which model would you recommend?
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I like a bit of thickness, but I find badminton shoes [i have some yonex ones], too thick for table tennis. Great for badminton because of the jumping / impact being mitigated, not so much for table tennis, which is all about the speedy lateral movement.

That's why I play with Medal 5's. Great shoe, still have a decent wedge of support, but not nearly as thick as most badminton shoes [yonex or otherwise]
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Basketball shoes and volleyball shoes do lateral movement well, but they are typically too heavy and bulky. Most shoes for other sports are made for jumping and have much thicker soles. Its so difficult to find shoes with thin soles, good grip, and made for lateral movements. Running shoes don't stay under your feet when doing lateral movements. I also wear size 13us. It's super hard to find table tennis shoes in my size. In Saigon, it's super hard to find any shoes in my size.

I have managed to find a few pairs of table tennis shoes in my size online. Donics have been really good, comfortable, and the soles seem to last forever. I had one pair of Stiga shoes and they are awful. Poor quality and the insole moves while in playing and ends up jammed into one side of the shoe. I'm playing in these converse currently: https://www.google.com.vn/search?q=converse+one+star+leather&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwitsO-jv6naAhXFMI8KHbyoCm8Q_AUIESgB&biw=598&bih=279&dpr=3#imgrc=6oakMzoXJtRTdM: and they are quite good and light.

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Originally posted by ericd937 ericd937 wrote:

Basketball shoes and volleyball shoes do lateral movement well, but they are typically too heavy and bulky. Most shoes for other sports are made for jumping and have much thicker soles. Its so difficult to find shoes with thin soles, good grip, and made for lateral movements. Running shoes don't stay under your feet when doing lateral movements. I also wear size 13us. It's super hard to find table tennis shoes in my size. In Saigon, it's super hard to find any shoes in my size.
 

What about indoor soccer shoes? They seem to fit your criteria - light, not truly made for jumping, good grip. I'm not sure about the lateral movement part but my thought was that all non-tennis shoes work well for lateral movement (pls elaborate if I am incorrect).
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Originally posted by ericd937 ericd937 wrote:

Basketball shoes and volleyball shoes do lateral movement well, but they are typically too heavy and bulky. Most shoes for other sports are made for jumping and have much thicker soles. Its so difficult to find shoes with thin soles, good grip, and made for lateral movements. Running shoes don't stay under your feet when doing lateral movements. I also wear size 13us. It's super hard to find table tennis shoes in my size. In Saigon, it's super hard to find any shoes in my size.

I have managed to find a few pairs of table tennis shoes in my size online. Donics have been really good, comfortable, and the soles seem to last forever. I had one pair of Stiga shoes and they are awful. Poor quality and the insole moves while in playing and ends up jammed into one side of the shoe. I'm playing in these converse currently: https://www.google.com.vn/search?q=converse+one+star+leather&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwitsO-jv6naAhXFMI8KHbyoCm8Q_AUIESgB&biw=598&bih=279&dpr=3#imgrc=6oakMzoXJtRTdM: and they are quite good and light.

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I'm sure any shoe for racket sports or volleyball will likely perform well for you.  I do not recommend your basic athletic shoe or running shoes.  

I tried wearing my Adidas and Nike shoes.  They're horrible.  Very bulky.  And as others said, they don't stay under your feet as your moving from side to side hitting the ball.  
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Originally posted by Chicobo Chicobo wrote:

Originally posted by ericd937 ericd937 wrote:

Basketball shoes and volleyball shoes do lateral movement well, but they are typically too heavy and bulky. Most shoes for other sports are made for jumping and have much thicker soles. Its so difficult to find shoes with thin soles, good grip, and made for lateral movements. Running shoes don't stay under your feet when doing lateral movements. I also wear size 13us. It's super hard to find table tennis shoes in my size. In Saigon, it's super hard to find any shoes in my size.
 

What about indoor soccer shoes? They seem to fit your criteria - light, not truly made for jumping, good grip. I'm not sure about the lateral movement part but my thought was that all non-tennis shoes work well for lateral movement (pls elaborate if I am incorrect).

Indoor soccer shoes could probably work just fine. Here again, I have a problem with those fitting my feet. Even if by some miracle they happen to have my size, indoor soccer shoes are typically very narrow. They just don't feel comfortable on my feet. When all else fails I can play in Converse Chuck Taylor Low tops but even those are a little bit heavier than I prefer. 
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I've always had a problem finding long last table tennis shoes that are wide enough for me. First I tried Tibhar, and they fell apart. Stiga lasted a bit longer, but even they fell apart. Those actually broke through the top front. But the difference in weight between table tennis shoes and volleyball shoes is enormous.
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Not sure if any of you are still following this thread...:)

But two questions. 

1. I went online to look for the Asics Rocket Gel 8 here in the USA vendors but they are all sold out in my size regardless of vender.  These are around $60 shipped when they are available. 

So started looking at Asics Tactics and they are also sold out. 

But then found the Asics Netburner. Around $90 - at this price, the otpions open up.  Anyone use the Netburner? 

2. I realize that I'm tall for the TT table so I am also very bent on my knees and feet wide apart. So I'd like shoes that are less 'tall' - meaning thinner soles and yet have decent shock absorption. 

So does TT shoes have lower height than Volleyball and Badminton shoes in general? 

3. By the way, the Mizuno Wave only goes up to 28cm which I think is USA size 10.  I need USA size 11 - which apparently really limit my options...? 

Thanks in advance for any additional help. 


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Try tabletennis11.com. They have a lot of shoes up to size US12 (46). Occasionally, I can find 47 there.
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Originally posted by MTMT MTMT wrote:

Not sure if any of you are still following this thread...:)

But two questions. 

1. I went online to look for the Asics Rocket Gel 8 here in the USA vendors but they are all sold out in my size regardless of vender.  These are around $60 shipped when they are available. 

So started looking at Asics Tactics and they are also sold out. 

But then found the Asics Netburner. Around $90 - at this price, the otpions open up.  Anyone use the Netburner? 

2. I realize that I'm tall for the TT table so I am also very bent on my knees and feet wide apart. So I'd like shoes that are less 'tall' - meaning thinner soles and yet have decent shock absorption. 

So does TT shoes have lower height than Volleyball and Badminton shoes in general? 

3. By the way, the Mizuno Wave only goes up to 28cm which I think is USA size 10.  I need USA size 11 - which apparently really limit my options...? 

Thanks in advance for any additional help. 


Careful with mizuno wave medal sizing.
Only the cm size (i. E. 28.5) is accurate (relative to all my other shoes). You can certainly get it in various sizes above 28, try tt japan and tt11.

Fantastic shoes that are perfect for your needs

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>>  What's unique about Table Tennis shoes?

Not much. For example, Miu Hirano wears badminton shoes.


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I like TT shoes because they flex a lot and I can dig my toes into the ground more.  For me that is a big part of how I move and stay in balance.  I have used Mizuno Wave Drive and various Butterfly and Asics shoes and they are really good but my current favorites are Tibhar Blue Thunder (price, comfort, quality, durability all good). 

I can't dig in like that with badminton or volleyball shoes.  They are too stiff.  BUT, and this is really important, I play on a relatively soft red gerfloor.  TT shoes would work well also on the kind of rubberized floor you often see in the gymnasiums of schools in Europe where a lot of clubs play (as in Germany). 

I would not be able to use TT shoes on a hard wood or concrete surface!!!!  Not enough padding or support and foot and Achilles tendon problems would result. 
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I like TT shoes because they flex a lot and I can dig my toes into the ground more.  For me that is a big part of how I move and stay in balance.  I have used Mizuno Wave Drive and various Butterfly and Asics shoes and they are really good but my current favorites are Tibhar Blue Thunder (price, comfort, quality, durability all good). 

I can't dig in like that with badminton or volleyball shoes.  They are too stiff.  BUT, and this is really important, I play on a relatively soft red gerfloor.  TT shoes would work well also on the kind of rubberized floor you often see in the gymnasiums of schools in Europe where a lot of clubs play (as in Germany). 

I would not be able to use TT shoes on a hard wood or concrete surface!!!!  Not enough padding or support and foot and Achilles tendon problems would result. 

What about playing on ceramic floor? Better using TT shoes that are more flex like Mizuno Wave Drive/Asics Excounter, Stiga/Thibar or using Multicourt Shoes that are more stiff like Asics Gel Rocket 7?
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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

I like TT shoes because they flex a lot and I can dig my toes into the ground more.  For me that is a big part of how I move and stay in balance.  I have used Mizuno Wave Drive and various Butterfly and Asics shoes and they are really good but my current favorites are Tibhar Blue Thunder (price, comfort, quality, durability all good). 

I can't dig in like that with badminton or volleyball shoes.  They are too stiff.  BUT, and this is really important, I play on a relatively soft red gerfloor.  TT shoes would work well also on the kind of rubberized floor you often see in the gymnasiums of schools in Europe where a lot of clubs play (as in Germany). 

I would not be able to use TT shoes on a hard wood or concrete surface!!!!  Not enough padding or support and foot and Achilles tendon problems would result. 

What about playing on ceramic floor? Better using TT shoes that are more flex like Mizuno Wave Drive/Asics Excounter, Stiga/Thibar or using Multicourt Shoes that are more stiff like Asics Gel Rocket 7?

In my limited experience, I find that Gel Rocket and similar shoes perform better on wooden and concrete (probably similar to ceramic) floors, while TT-only shoes seem to be better on a proper sports floor like Gerflor.  I had Tibhar shoes for a while but found them to be too slippery for our club (wooden floor), but Gel Rocket 7 do just fine.


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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

I like TT shoes because they flex a lot and I can dig my toes into the ground more.  For me that is a big part of how I move and stay in balance.  I have used Mizuno Wave Drive and various Butterfly and Asics shoes and they are really good but my current favorites are Tibhar Blue Thunder (price, comfort, quality, durability all good). 

I can't dig in like that with badminton or volleyball shoes.  They are too stiff.  BUT, and this is really important, I play on a relatively soft red gerfloor.  TT shoes would work well also on the kind of rubberized floor you often see in the gymnasiums of schools in Europe where a lot of clubs play (as in Germany). 

I would not be able to use TT shoes on a hard wood or concrete surface!!!!  Not enough padding or support and foot and Achilles tendon problems would result. 




What about playing on ceramic floor? Better using TT shoes that are more flex like Mizuno Wave Drive/Asics Excounter, Stiga/Thibar or using Multicourt Shoes that are more stiff like Asics Gel Rocket 7?


Ceramic is very hard. You need protect your feet. So Gel Rocket or a badminton shoe I think.
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Ceramic is very hard. You need protect your feet. So Gel Rocket or a badminton shoe I think.

Actually I use Stiga Shoes on ceramic floor right now. It's comfortable, not slippery & flex.
I've brand new Asics Gel Rocket but has never been used cause it's a little bit heavy than my Stiga shoes & too stiff.
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