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Originally posted by rocketman222 rocketman222 wrote:

By the way Chop4ever's sponge booster is pretty good on tenergy, it boosts it without softening it. Also well priced in my opinion.

Thanks Rocketman!
For anybody uses Tenergy on 5 plies blade, you shouldn't boost in any kind, it results as very long trajectory and uncontrolable.
For who uses Tenergy on ALC or ZLC or plain carbon, tuning by any thin liquid booster will bring Tenergy back to the speedglue era (as thin as good).

Depends on the purify, booster can have smell, little scent or nothing at all. In term of chemical performance, I define booster to 3 kinds: parafin based (Falco, baby oil, parafin,,), petrol based (Haifu, Lidu, Dianchi, Dandoy, Evo, Axel,..) and natural oil based (TRF and Reviver). Parafin based boosters are ordorless to earthy but very thick and is the worst performance.

I recommend to use the thinnest and ordorless booster but not parafin based.
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Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by rocketman222 rocketman222 wrote:

By the way Chop4ever's sponge booster is pretty good on tenergy, it boosts it without softening it. Also well priced in my opinion.

Thanks Rocketman!
For anybody uses Tenergy on 5 plies blade, you shouldn't boost in any kind, it results as very long trajectory and uncontrolable.
For who uses Tenergy on ALC or ZLC or plain carbon, tuning by any thin liquid booster will bring Tenergy back to the speedglue era (as thin as good).

Depends on the purify, booster can have smell, little scent or nothing at all. In term of chemical performance, I define booster to 3 kinds: parafin based (Falco, baby oil, parafin,,), petrol based (Haifu, Lidu, Dianchi, Dandoy, Evo, Axel,..) and natural oil based (TRF and Reviver). Parafin based boosters are ordorless to earthy but very thick and is the worst performance.

I recommend to use the thinnest and ordorless booster but not parafin based.
Aren't TRF and dandoy the same? So is it oil based of petrol based?
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Originally posted by SmackDAT SmackDAT wrote:

Aren't TRF and dandoy the same? So is it oil based of petrol based?

Nope, they are different on scent/smell and even on the chemical processing. Petrol is from fossil coal but natural oil is from living plants
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Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by SmackDAT SmackDAT wrote:

Aren't TRF and dandoy the same? So is it oil based of petrol based?

Nope, they are different on scent/smell and even on the chemical processing. Petrol is from fossil coal but natural oil is from living plants
How different is TRF and Kailin? Since they are both made of petrol, wouldn't they be very similar?
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Originally posted by SmackDAT SmackDAT wrote:

Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by SmackDAT SmackDAT wrote:

Aren't TRF and dandoy the same? So is it oil based of petrol based?

Nope, they are different on scent/smell and even on the chemical processing. Petrol is from fossil coal but natural oil is from living plants
How different is TRF and Kailin? Since they are both made of petrol, wouldn't they be very similar?

Some TRF has small amount of turpentine (you could smell it), some made with kerosene and they work very differently. In Kailin, Dianchi and Lidu you could smell a hint of earthy sweety like sugar on the base of petroleum spirit. Yes they are weak or strong depend on the purify and colour.
So I asume they are different in fomula, hence react differently in Tenergy. 
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I still don't know what TRF is, I went to TTnPP and still no idea
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Originally posted by smackman smackman wrote:

I still don't know what TRF is, I went to TTnPP and still no idea

Ohh..
I have checked that website and noted that they have stopped selling TRF Belgium booster. As I remember, they sell 150ml in a black bottle for 35USD.
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Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by SmackDAT SmackDAT wrote:

Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by SmackDAT SmackDAT wrote:

Aren't TRF and dandoy the same? So is it oil based of petrol based?

Nope, they are different on scent/smell and even on the chemical processing. Petrol is from fossil coal but natural oil is from living plants
How different is TRF and Kailin? Since they are both made of petrol, wouldn't they be very similar?

Some TRF has small amount of turpentine (you could smell it), some made with kerosene and they work very differently. In Kailin, Dianchi and Lidu you could smell a hint of earthy sweety like sugar on the base of petroleum spirit. Yes they are weak or strong depend on the purify and colour.
So I asume they are different in fomula, hence react differently in Tenergy. 


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Does anyone know where to buy trf booster?
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Has anyone tried out "Wendy Bio Booster" on ebay?  The description is similar to Dandoy.
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Originally posted by rocketman222 rocketman222 wrote:

Does anyone know where to buy trf booster?
mrpz the guy selling cheap rubbers has trf for 17 euro! Good deal.
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The main reason for boosting Tenergy here is to make it faster.

Has anybody thought about reviving and old ternegy, which has slippery dried topsheet or shrunk too hard?  In this situation we must tune up both sides, to raise the grip of the topsheet and springiness of sponge.

Has anybody wonder which booster BTY manufacturer has used on their Tenergy and why it takes 11 years from 2007 but ENS still can't make the same rubber? is the secrete on the sponge, or the topsheet?

Has anybody thought about an alternative solution to renovate an ENS rubber to be closer to an Tenergy? As its price is increasing because there is nothing else could imitate its playing characteristics.

4Rs sustainable solution: Reduction, Reuse, Recycle and Recovery

If you don't damage the sponge buy that terrible parafin oil base booster, then we could apply 4Rs in Tenergy.
Reduction: If we can't avoid using it, then use when it is really needed. Don't overbuy them. Some could keep the edge to glue another sheet of Tenergy. Yes it works great in training and coaching.
Reuse and Recover: don't throw it to the bin, we could reuse it 100 hours more! My student bought one T80 and used it for 1 year in State Comp and National Comp, then gave it to his younger brother to use on penhold BH. After a year, the rubber looked dried and dead, they gave to me. I reboosted it, then glued to my training bat to play vs them. It performs like a new rubber in my hand!
Recycle: after it is finally dead, we could boil or iron it to separate the topsheet out, the sponge could be glue to shortpips topsheet or longpips chopping style.
 


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in the thread FITeT: Cheaters No Passaran !!
Originally posted by Pushblocker Pushblocker wrote:

Boosting (other than done by factory) is ILLEGAL and nobody seems to complain about it.....

Let the record show I am complaining about the use of boosters.  It is illegal.
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Originally posted by Tassie52 Tassie52 wrote:

in the thread FITeT: Cheaters No Passaran !!
Originally posted by Pushblocker Pushblocker wrote:

Boosting (other than done by factory) is ILLEGAL and nobody seems to complain about it.....

Let the record show I am complaining about the use of boosters.  It is illegal.

Disagreed
It is called sustainability

 



Edited by chop4ever - 04/12/2018 at 9:24pm
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Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by Tassie52 Tassie52 wrote:

in the thread FITeT: Cheaters No Passaran !!
Originally posted by Pushblocker Pushblocker wrote:

Boosting (other than done by factory) is ILLEGAL and nobody seems to complain about it.....

Let the record show I am complaining about the use of boosters.  It is illegal.

Disagreed
It is called sustainability

if the voc is under the limits is legal

 


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Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

The main reason for boosting Tenergy here is to make it faster.

Has anybody thought about reviving and old ternegy, which has slippery dried topsheet or shrunk too hard?  In this situation we must tune up both sides, to raise the grip of the topsheet and springiness of sponge.

Has anybody wonder which booster BTY manufacturer has used on their Tenergy and why it takes 11 years from 2007 but ENS still can't make the same rubber? is the secrete on the sponge, or the topsheet?

Has anybody thought about an alternative solution to renovate an ENS rubber to be closer to an Tenergy? As its price is increasing because there is nothing else could imitate its playing characteristics.

4Rs sustainable solution: Reduction, Reuse, Recycle and Recovery

If you don't damage the sponge buy that terrible parafin oil base booster, then we could apply 4Rs in Tenergy.
Reduction: If we can't avoid using it, then use when it is really needed. Don't overbuy them. Some could keep the edge to glue another sheet of Tenergy. Yes it works great in training and coaching.
Reuse and Recover: don't throw it to the bin, we could reuse it 100 hours more! My student bought one T80 and used it for 1 year in State Comp and National Comp, then gave it to his younger brother to use on penhold BH. After a year, the rubber looked dried and dead, they gave to me. I reboosted it, then glued to my training bat to play vs them. It performs like a new rubber in my hand!
Recycle: after it is finally dead, we could boil or iron it to separate the topsheet out, the sponge could be glue to shortpips topsheet or longpips chopping style.
 




I dont know what booster bty use to make tenergy but I know that some female pro players carry butterfly booster in their bags
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I dont know what booster bty use to make tenergy but I know that some female pro players carry butterfly booster in their bags


By misinterpretation  I could consider it is a big joke for me....Wink
And in that situation I would be very curious to know how it works...
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Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:



I dont know what booster bty use to make tenergy but I know that some female pro players carry butterfly booster in their bags


By misinterpretation  I could consider it is a big joke for me....Wink
And in that situation I would be very curious to know how it works...


a little metal bottle with no label inside the bag of korean player in the US open a coach bought the bottle
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Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:



I dont know what booster bty use to make tenergy but I know that some female pro players carry butterfly booster in their bags


By misinterpretation  I could consider it is a big joke for me....Wink
And in that situation I would be very curious to know how it works...


a little metal bottle with no label inside the bag of korean player in the US open a coach bought the bottle

As I know long ago, there was a kind of 150ml tin bottle but it was from Nittaku, not BTY.


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Originally posted by jpenmaster jpenmaster wrote:

Tenergy + booster = waste of $75...


    Yes it is, undebatably.

There was a specialized study (not for public knowledge) on boosters conducted by RITC science team, and they proved a harmful effect of boosters on ANY porous rubbers.

THINK TWICE BEFORE YOU BOOST THE COSTLY RUBBERS .

Yes, you're right indeed.   All those Boosters and Tuners will ruin the porous rubbers pretty easily. This is the very reason that Butterfly Tenergy warning a customer on each rubber envelope "Avoid oil and organic liquid on rubber".
After being treated with boosters, the porous rubbers will degrade dramatically in 15 hrs playing or so.   This is no matter for professional players who used to replace their rubbers every single week, and it would be some a tragedy for most of the commoners, given the Tenergy marketing price of 70 USD a piece.

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Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:

Originally posted by jpenmaster jpenmaster wrote:

Tenergy + booster = waste of $75...


    Yes it is, undebatably.

There was a specialized study (not for public knowledge) on boosters conducted by RITC science team, and they proved a harmful effect of boosters on ANY porous rubbers.

THINK TWICE BEFORE YOU BOOST THE COSTLY RUBBERS .

Yes, you're right indeed.   All those Boosters and Tuners will ruin the porous rubbers pretty easily. This is the very reason that Butterfly Tenergy warning a customer on each rubber envelope "Avoid oil and organic liquid on rubber".
After being treated with boosters, the porous rubbers will degrade dramatically in 15 hrs playing or so.   This is no matter for professional players who used to replace their rubbers every single week, and it would be some a tragedy for most of the commoners, given the Tenergy marketing price of 70 USD a piece.

https://tennis-tavolo.com/threads/studio-cinese-sui-booster.45893/#post-559061
Then, how come porous ESN rubbers come pre boosted?


Edited by SmackDAT - 04/14/2018 at 3:47pm
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I noticed that many Tenergy users start to boost after ABS ball arival...
I also don't like unboosted T05 with ABS ball .
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It is obviously a personal preference, but while I was playing with T05 (till last year) I always applied a layer of booster before cut and in few months again
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Didn't like my 64 boosted though...
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Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:

Originally posted by jpenmaster jpenmaster wrote:

Tenergy + booster = waste of $75...

Yes it is, undebatably.
There was a specialized study (not for public knowledge) on boosters conducted by RITC science team, and they proved a harmful effect of boosters on ANY porous rubbers.

THINK TWICE BEFORE YOU BOOST THE COSTLY RUBBERS .

Yes, you're right indeed.   All those Boosters and Tuners will ruin the porous rubbers pretty easily. This is the very reason that Butterfly Tenergy warning a customer on each rubber envelope "Avoid oil and organic liquid on rubber".
After being treated with boosters, the porous rubbers will degrade dramatically in 15 hrs playing or so.   This is no matter for professional players who used to replace their rubbers every single week, and it would be some a tragedy for most of the commoners, given the Tenergy marketing price of 70 USD a piece.

https://tennis-tavolo.com/threads/studio-cinese-sui-booster.45893/#post-559061


Undebateable???
What you have quoted above is a big encouragement to boost.
15hrs playing time? That's plenty. And after the 15 hrs or so, boost again.
T05 was introduced at the tail end of the speed glue era. It was designed to withstand repeated application of speed glue.
Simple arithmetic shows that, on average, a high level amateur player will buy 2 to 4 pairs of T05 rubber in a season whether he boosts or not. This player will use the older sheets for practice and new rubbers for the big tournaments/league matches. So there's not much difference in the basic economics of using boosters compared to not boosting.

I don't boost. I don't play tournaments generally plus I am not good enough a player to take advantage of the increased performance.
Empirically speaking, I have played with a fellow player's boosted T05. Even after a month on its 2nd boost job, I could feel the superior feel and performance of his bat as compared to my T05 setup.

Forget the bull shiiite above. Boosting T05 remains an affordable advantage for those who can handle it even at amateur level.
Note: I think my test bat used Falco as booster.
To the OP, sorry. I think I voted twice in error. Cry


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Did anyone tried more than 1 booster on Tenergy and can share which one worked the best?
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