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    Posted: 06/08/2018 at 3:01am
Hello what do you think about a half long reverse pendulum with no spin the the middle forehand as a change up from backspin/sidetopspin is it a good alternative, what do you think,

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Variation of the serve is good. Not just limited to 1 or 2 spins.
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Of course it's good! A lot of it comes down to how similar you can make it look compared to your backspin/side topspin variations.

If the opponent thinks it's side under when it's no spin, you've earned an easy point!

Variation keeps them guessing.
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How do you do a convincing no-spin reverse pendulum that looks similar to one with a lot of spin?! I've never in my life figured out how to do that.... Would be nice if you could explain a bit further Clap

It's part of the reason why I switched to hook serves, it's easy to do no-spin serves for some cheap points LOL 


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As convincing as your opponent is good at reading them :)

Hit it a little closer to your wrist. Hit the ball a little earlier before you really accelerate your wrist. Have a slightly flatter hit by going a little more forward.

None will be no spin, but the variation compared to your normal pendulum would make it "no spin".

I used to do a lot of reverse pendulums, but now my go to serves are hook and backhand as well. I find them easier to do. I still pull it out every now and then tho!
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Originally posted by mickd mickd wrote:

As convincing as your opponent is good at reading them :)

Hit it a little closer to your wrist. Hit the ball a little earlier before you really accelerate your wrist. Have a slightly flatter hit by going a little more forward.

None will be no spin, but the variation compared to your normal pendulum would make it "no spin".

I used to do a lot of reverse pendulums, but now my go to serves are hook and backhand as well. I find them easier to do. I still pull it out every now and then tho!

Hmm interesting! I usually train up wrist movements that feel different (but look similar enough) to achieve different spins. Usually my way of doing no-spin for other serves would be do a slight change in racket angle during the swing to hit the ball more vs spinning it. Maybe I'll try some of your suggestions the next time I play. 


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I have not had very good luck making a no spin inside-out serve.  What I found, though, is that is fairly easy to hid the amount of spin with this serve and to also disguise the difference between side-spin and cork-screw spin.  The amount of cork-screw spin really affects the second bounce and that seems to really keep the receiver guessing.

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