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chongqinghotpot 
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I am surprised by the poor fake job.
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AntSj00
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Posted: 08/10/2018 at 2:47am |
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1000% FAKE
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kolevtt
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Hmmm...I still can't see any excuse of the behavior of the member hunkeylin here... So many proofs this blade is FAKE and he still continues to argue with people (?!?) About the blade as playing skills - I think each blade is good in the correct hand. I have played with fake viscaria, same construction and not a problem to play your game with good rubbers. The discomfort comes from the shape of the head and handle, but with grip and practice - everything is possible. |
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tkobe
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Posted: 06/15/2018 at 5:41am |
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Yeah it might be like this.
But In that picture of real NEW viscaria and my used "one" I cant see any differences except that JTT.A.A Okey second thing is that aluminium logo- in a real one is brushed aluminum and mine is not that "brushed" if you know what I mean nevermind, you need to be careful buyin an used things :)
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Fakes are better than they used to be and yours may well come pretty close to the feel of a real Viscaria. Just looking at the construction of it, I am not entirely surprised. |
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Posted: 06/14/2018 at 6:35pm |
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good to know you are happy with it (for now at least)
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Maybe all you needed was a cheap carbon knock off in the first place
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YEAH! You were right! I tried this racket today and It was decent game, so not that bad deal.. Im not that pro to recognize if it is fake or not and I won my game haha so I can say it would fit for now and maybe in a few months I will try to get original viscaria next time :P Thanks for your advices Guys!
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The viscaria is definitely not genuine. The metal tag on the butt handle is definite not the correct one that Butterfly uses. the colour definitely gives it away. I have seen Bty Zhang Jike Super ZLC which is similar to OP Pic. Also the OP pic the butt of the handle.. isnt the letter "J" meant to have a line on top? If the OP took the rubber off the front face. I would bet that it will say "peirfomance" instead of perfomance on the description print
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Notice any difference? J.T.T.A.A and JTT.A.A also the metal thing is too shiny. |
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I was just pointing out that it wasn't your first tournament and that ICC has a loose definition of what a "Bronze" medal is. I actually first noticed their liberal use of "Bronze" medal term after a Nationals or US Open when I saw a club news letter stating theirs players won X amount of Gold, Silver and Bronze medals. Kind of hard to say someone won a Bronze medal when they don't play off the losers of the semifinals to determine 3rd and 4th place.
Our next tournament up in Seattle at the club ( the SPTTC club is actually in Bellevue) is June 23-24. There's another one in July 21-22 at another club in Bellevue. Let me know when you come up, I'll cover the club drop in fee for you. I'll be gone the first two weeks of July. First week at Nationals and traveling afterwards the second week. |
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That's cuz in an ICC tournament is difficult to advance so they at least reward something for semi finalist. ICC is the #1 club in usa, naturally the tournament will be full of underrated ICC kids. The event is also a lot more packed.
Edit: aren't you that kid who lied about how much you spent on TT for your rating? (like 200 bucks and usatt2000) from the post I made earlier? It seems you want to jump on this to gank up on me. I welcome it, I might come to seattle next month. You play in spttc? Edited by hunkeelin - 06/13/2018 at 1:30am |
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Actually it was his second tournament and it had to have been a ICC tournament since they seem to to the only club that credits their players as winning a "bronze" medal for losing in the semifinals of a event, whether it's one of their own tournaments or the Nationals or US Open.
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^ one is new, hte other is used (what op said he buy a used one). Used one have deeper color and your lighting is brighter. It's identical.
Look guys, in the next 6~18 months i'm going to create an account posting the same thing but a real viscaria and i'm gonna get a bunch of `it's fake post`. Watch me, im going to prove you guys are full of it. Edited by hunkeelin - 06/13/2018 at 12:40am |
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Posted: 06/13/2018 at 12:32am |
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Posted: 06/13/2018 at 12:22am |
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U1950 bronze on the first tourny, and money from league. No matter how little it is, my words should have more credit over many in the forum. Let's stay to the topic, what OP have is real. The lighting and the photographic skill is bad but it's real. What he have is identical to mine and I bought mine from megaspin. Again, please stop any nonsense about OP's blade being fake and get this EJ weak sh1t outta here. This place is to help forum members not spreading lies. I'll sdfu if someone classically trained put up a vid of himself with a higher rating who state this blade is 100% fake from the picture. I doubt someone would, cuz anyone with knowledge in tt would know what OP has is real or won't say it's fake from the picture at the very least.
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Posted: 06/13/2018 at 12:20am |
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^ all i see here is better photographic skills(better lighting, better camera, better angle). What you have and what OP have is identical.
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I can share some pictures of a brand new (Real) one I have. Hope they can help other members identify fake Viscarias in the future. Actually you don't have to be an expert to tell the difference. Check the logos and JTTAA mark.
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I'm asking what have you won ? So far it's all talk. Yes, you're a legend in your own mind.
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what garage tournaments have you won to be this delusional ? [/QUOTE]
2400~2500 is very obtainable for many if they dedicated 9~10 years of their life for it. At least I believe I could if I did. 2400~2500 is actually consider the low scale for a decade of training. Talented TT players can reach 2600+ with a decade under their belt. Any male kid in bayarea with parents being able continue dumping money for them to go fulltime in ICC can reach 2500+ before they head to college. Honestly, if we rewind the time and make u a 6 years old boy and get train in icc fulltime for 10 years you don't see yourself going over 2500? Maybe you can't imagine that with your current limited TT knowledge, but it's definitely doable. It's just priorities buddy.
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timoboll can easily be 2600~2700 even if he switch hand every few points and invent the "hand switching playing style". Just cuz someone have some achievement regarding an outdated grip decades ago has nothing to do with anything. My original statement is "anyone who spend the same amount of time on shakehand > semmlier or boggy grip stands"; and of course he can beat me, i don't spend that much time as him in tt. However, if I train even 1/4 the amount of time he trains in tt I am sure i have no problem beating him/her or whatever. Pick any kid in ICC/Swan/MDTTC/Chicgattc that trains almost full time (around 2500~2600ish, basically 1/4 of what semelier or boogiy trains in their lifetime) and they will whip them any day.
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what garage tournaments have you won to be this delusional ?
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Posted: 06/12/2018 at 8:11pm |
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edited, dw.
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Posted: 06/12/2018 at 7:54pm |
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Excuse me please?! Please elaborate on this a little bit more! |
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I actually would. LOL 80 euro for vsicara and 2 tenergy on it? anyday everyday. Regarding that scamming thing lol, it's not me. I'm in sf, isn't that kid in euro? I recall dishonesty is not a thing for americans. Oh and that blade is real.
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timoboll can easily be 2600~2700 even if he switch hand every few points and invent the "hand switching playing style". Just cuz someone have some achievement regarding an outdated grip decades ago has nothing to do with anything. My original statement is "anyone who spend the same amount of time on shakehand > semmlier or boggy grip stands"; and of course he can beat me, i don't spend that much time as him in tt. However, if I train even 1/4 the amount of time he trains in tt I am sure i have no problem beating him/her or whatever. Pick any kid in ICC/Swan/MDTTC/Chicgattc that trains almost full time (around 2500~2600ish, basically 1/4 of what semelier or boogiy trains in their lifetime) and they will whip them any day.
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Then he can be so good to buy it for him, because 80 EUR is f**king good price for Viscaria (if it was real), but he thinks it is, so I can't see any problem here. And he will be probably proud of that deal, I hope so and believe in his satisfaction
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And not on the last place : I offer the topic owner to re-name the topic : I WAS SCAMMED! Because I can't see any Viscaria here, but some fake and non licensed copy of the name of VISCARIA blade and I think that one is already reserved as trade mark of Butterfly Japan.
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He's just clueless and thinks he's always right. |
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I bet on my Viscaria S T this blade is a real blade for table tennis made in china. Should be better if the stamp was posted as Vinaria, Bilkaria or Milkaria, theн nobody will argue about the authenticity... You can ask the player to return the blade or another option could be to contact with the dealer that player told you he has bought it and to explain the dealer this situation. I believe the player who sold you this blade will be in trouble then and probably he will get the blade back. To buy fake blade for real money is not a big deal. About hunkeylin - I am not sure why, but some negative topics were connected with this member or I am wrong? As I remember he was using two or three accounts to scam people here or I am wrong, please moderators to confirm what's wrong with my thoughts about that member? Or he was the boy who scammed someone and months ago he "repaired" himself. Just curious about the case, but it was several years ago...And now he is again active with negative postings about f**king fake blade!!! (Sorry for my language, but I am really angry about that! So powerful keeping the thesis this blade is genuine just deserves immediate ban in my eyes. What a scammer! Shame on you!
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I'm sure they can still beat you now.
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