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tkobe 
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 Topic: My new Viscaria FLPosted: 06/10/2018 at 11:57am |
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Guys I just bought a used Butterfly Viscaria FL with rubbers already sticked on.
Please could you tell me is this Real blade or Fake?
I will be very glad for your help and opinions  Peace!      |
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jonyer1980
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Posted: 06/10/2018 at 12:31pm |
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IMO looks Fake
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jt99sf
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Posted: 06/10/2018 at 12:41pm |
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take a picture of the Butterfly logo at the end of the handle, does the serial number match the box ?
so far, it doesn't look good. |
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jobaumi
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Posted: 06/10/2018 at 12:43pm |
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Fake!
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tkobe
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Posted: 06/10/2018 at 4:59pm |
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Hmm here you go the picture of the logo:
I bought if from the player from 2nd league in Poland dont know what it means but when I asked if it is a oryginal he was DAMN sure and told me that his club bought him that blade. One question is about the blade and second about the rubbers? hmm thanks so much guys!  |
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Baal
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Posted: 06/10/2018 at 6:05pm |
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Sorry to say it looks weird to me too. With the rubber still on it is harder to tell from cell phone photos. But I agree with the others so far.
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Posted: 06/10/2018 at 6:23pm |
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FAKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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kolevtt
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Posted: 06/10/2018 at 6:25pm |
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That blade looks so fake! |
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jobaumi
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Posted: 06/10/2018 at 7:06pm |
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100% Fake
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hunkeelin
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Posted: 06/10/2018 at 7:24pm |
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Dude, I can't tell whether forum members are trolling you or this is for joke purposes. This viscaria is real, there's no science behind blade or validation of authenticity. You can clearly see the layers and the carbon fiber in it. No fake manufacturer is going to take that much time into details, if it's fake you can tell right away it's painfully obvious(super short handle, uneven, no carbon fiber, etc....), fake manufacturer is just gonna give you a slap of wood and have no regards of making it look real. If ppl are making fake they are in it for the money, the fact that your blade have carbon fiber, tags, the little shield carbon tag etc... it will just cost too much for someone in for a quick buck to reproduce. It has the same color of wood as the real one too, the fake guys basically need to hire a professional research team to do this and it's just not cost effective. Viscaria is a professional equipment so the market is too small for fake guys to chip in as well.
The blade is real period. For those believe they have the eyes and knowledge to determine this blade is fake, they are nothing but delusional equipment junkie. I shall refer them to this vid I made few monthes ago. https://www.captiongenerator.com/971652/Obsessed-with-equipment-part-2 Edited by hunkeelin - 06/10/2018 at 7:40pm |
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Baal
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Posted: 06/10/2018 at 9:19pm |
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Actually none of what hunkeelin just wrote is true. I have seen fake Viscaria with a composite layer that look reasonably convincing and I am far from a delusional equipment junkie. I do know a lot about Viscaias. I fave been playing with them for considerably more than a decade. It would be helpful if you removed the rubber and took a photo so we can see the lettering. Fakes often fail to completely replicate that.
Hunkeelin has a history of posting really strange stuff. I usually try to ignore it but in this case I need to respond. Also jt99sf is pretty knowledgeable on this blade. I am not 100% certain it is fake. But I lean that way. |
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Baal
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Posted: 06/10/2018 at 9:23pm |
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Specifically the blue ply looks weird and the plastic lenses are not fitted as well as on mine. Those things among others make me suspicious.
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jt99sf
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Posted: 06/10/2018 at 9:41pm |
It really shows you're under-exposed to information. The blade neck is all wrong, the lens on the handle is crooked and the silver Butterfly logo is too shiny (just compare it to a real one). Perhaps you don't play with Butterfly blades. Edited by jt99sf - 06/10/2018 at 11:45pm |
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kyle90
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Posted: 06/10/2018 at 11:13pm |
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Way too many differences for that to be real
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DreiZ
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Posted: 06/11/2018 at 1:43am |
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Sorry but it’s a fake. Whoever tells you this is 100% real probably sells fake items too.
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Posted: 06/11/2018 at 2:51am |
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Fake!
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hunkeelin
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Posted: 06/11/2018 at 4:04am |
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I normally don't start flame war at my age; at most do some funny passive aggressive one liner as a joke; but this sh*t is getting way out of hand. I do want to promote TT and I can't do that by having EJ inducing lies and garbage to new players making them dwell time into equipment than focusing skill.
Delusional forum EJ here are judging your blade via colors when it's taken by probably a phone. I said it and i'll say it again. It's not profitable for fakers to create something like that to that detail, if they could do something like that butterfly would just hire them. The manufacture process to create a replica of this quality warrant a huge market and profit margin. A viscaria is not the way to go. There are better things for them to focus faking on than a niche market. Your Viscaria look exactly like mine; and I"m playing fine. It seems some forum member uses years of equipment delusion as credibility. Below are the following vids of how i play few months ago. I'm using a viscaria (look exactly like urs) with h3 and t05. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0kuq5Mt204&t=55s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gFIc01sBcA and some results to attest my skill level, i'm on the front page you can look up my opponent's level. http://sunsetttc.blogspot.com/ I know what I am talking about and i doubt many of the forum members who said your blade is fake have a proper grip. Play with your blade and if it doesn't play funny be happy with it and move on. Don't dwell here and get into any kind of "science" of vsicarias. https://www.captiongenerator.com/971652/Obsessed-with-equipment-part-2 Edited by hunkeelin - 06/11/2018 at 12:00pm |
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IanMcg
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Posted: 06/11/2018 at 4:48am |
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He knows what he is talking about, he said it himself! Also not having a proper grip makes you a fake player who shouldn't be trusted! Also also, counterfeits are not counterfeits if they're not a steaming pile of garbage because its not profitable! Also, he won $100, so you should definitely believe him.
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Posted: 06/11/2018 at 6:46am |
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hunkeelin
I have fake viscaria from Aliexpress and it looks better quality then this one. don't tell me I bought original viscaria on Aliexpress |
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Simon_plays
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Posted: 06/11/2018 at 8:06am |
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I always thought that the copies were made in the same factories that made blades for smaller companies, maybe even Yinhe. Look at the build quality of a yinhe blade, especially the lenses and the CTTA initials at the base of the handle and it's no big step to think that the same factories might be producing decent butterfly knock-offs.
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SmileTT
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Posted: 06/11/2018 at 9:18am |
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Am I missing something here? This looks like like a proper Silver tag Vis with Arylate-carbon lens on the back? I only own new Viscaria with the green hologram so I can't compare.
 tkobe, let me buy it from you and I will let you know its authenticity  piligrim, can we see your Vis from ali?
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Posted: 06/11/2018 at 10:50am |
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Congrats on your fake viscaria!
Just kidding. Or am I... |
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tom
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Posted: 06/11/2018 at 11:15am |
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https://www.prott.vip/Product-Details.aspx?productcode=VS
is this one real?
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Posted: 06/11/2018 at 11:42am |
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How much for it and how does it play?
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USATT rating 2200
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Posted: 06/11/2018 at 11:46am |
If you can't tell a Hyundi from a Honda, you're beyond help.
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Posted: 06/11/2018 at 11:47am |
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Posted: 06/11/2018 at 11:56am |
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I bought mine at mega spin btw https://imgur.com/a/fHbNRUN . Again, everything I've said are backed up with real credibility and proof. I normally don't give a damn about off topic wrong stuff in the forum but this fuels my anger.
1. Calling this blade fake with no proof is the worst thing a fellow TT member can do to a new player. It will give him excuse on his plays cuz he believe it's his blade's fault since is fake(it's not), he then will proceed to spend more money to buy a "real" one, then start comparing the two. Then with the new found knowledge, he will start calling out fake blades to fellow new forum members, thus the cycle of hell; its cancer. Whenever i walk to any TT club, you get classically trained players like me and many others above me with 1 or 2(spare) blade at most. Then we get the scrubs hover around 1300~1800 with a traveling bag full of TT equipment; switching blade every set, trying new things every other week, and wonder why they stagnate. I try to tell new players to steer away from that hell, it's a dirty place and don't go there. I got one middle age guy, if he wanted to he could write me a book about viscaria. I don't know what's so special about viscaria in particular, it's a just a god damn blade. 2. My family have a manufacture business. At a glance, if that blade were to be in production it will take a lot of money. That little plastic you see at the back of your blade? yes to make that to production that can easily cost upwards a mil. No fakers gonna chip in that kind of money if their goal is to make money. Edited by hunkeelin - 06/11/2018 at 12:46pm |
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Posted: 06/11/2018 at 12:05pm |
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no correlation btw how one plays and if he EJs. He could be shit or great whether he EJs or not. (I am talking about non-sponsored players)
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Would you believe someone who have the skill to win $100(btw 100 is a lot of money in US 99.9% of US tt player never see a dime in return for their play) or someone who can't even hold the paddle properly? I don't know where are you getting at. It was just to proof my credibility via actual knowledge of TT. At my level, without looking at the blade and rubber, I can tell if its real or fake just by playing it. Credibility is proven by knowledge and skill not the amount of time one stay on a TT forum or researcher of viscaria(fictional science); or for your case sarcasm.
Edited by hunkeelin - 06/11/2018 at 12:12pm |
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Posted: 06/11/2018 at 12:16pm |
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You’re clearly clueless to the prevalence of counterfeit TT goods being made in China. If there is money to be made, they will produce fakes. Anything that is super popular like viscaria, Tenergy, and Hurricane is faked in large quantities and sold to unsuspecting customers.
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