New Orange Plastic Ball 3*

jonyer1980 wrote: I also bought a few packs of orange D40+ and I'm quite disappointed with their QC. I can't explain with these ball are ITTF aprroved. They look rounder than seamless, but the way they fly at gameplay it's weird with wobling. There's also a brake effect on some of them. I don't know why but these new batch of DHS aren't no longer the same as previous ones. Maybe it's the colour... IDK but 30/40% are utter gargabe

   THE BALL MOST FAVORED WITH CHOPPERS.
The orange ball is a perfect sphere. I do not see any ball wobbling upon the finger checkouts, when spinning the ball on the table with fingers.
Yes, the ball may go wobbling in air at some strokes, it is a specific aerodynamic effect and choppers do like it so much.
Choppers would like those orange best of all.

Be happy

Edited by igorponger - 12/13/2018 at 4:42pm

benfb wrote: icontek wrote: So as long as the ITTF approves balls that reduce the Chinese advantages of training there will be more upsets, and TT will become a better and more popular sport for gambling. (e.g. the more luck involved, the less advantage the Chinese have; you can't train against random)  I know you're just joking, but I think the plastic balls favor the Chinese style of play.  With less spin, there is greater emphasis on just fast play with power.  With more spin you can play with more finesse and use clever play to compensate for the other player's speed or athleticism.  Of course, you could argue that the Chinese adjust so well that it doesn't matter what kind of ball you use.  Even random balls.

Edited by icontek - 12/13/2018 at 5:05pm

icontek wrote: So as long as the ITTF approves balls that reduce the Chinese advantages of training there will be more upsets, and TT will become a better and more popular sport for gambling. (e.g. the more luck involved, the less advantage the Chinese have; you can't train against random)

icontek wrote: PDOTEC, where are you getting round DHS D40+'s that lack the uneven weight spots? also, the ORANGE NITTAKU LESS SPIN BALL IS FINALLY HERE! Cheaper than Premiums and Orange with less spin!

qpskfec wrote: I ordered some DHS D40+ 3* orange balls from aliexpress and got them last week. QC was poor. 2 of the first 3 balls out of the box sounded bad, like they were cracked. I put a flashlight up to them in the dark and they didn't have any visible cracks. The third ball played ok. The orange ball didn't play exactly like the white D40+. It seemed to float a little more. I did a quick and dirty unscientific drop test between a handful of new D40+ orange/white balls. The orange balls consistently bounced slightly higher. Not a big difference like D40+ vs XSF seamless, but definitely a slightly higher bounce. The orange D40+ is a good option for people who play in places with bad visibility with a warning about DHS quality control. If other brands resell this ball under their own name and demand better QC from DHS, then that could be a better option.

Edited by pdotec - 10/07/2018 at 9:22pm

mog1111 wrote: AndySmith wrote: cole_ely wrote: But what if you play where the walls are white? There are some other practicalities. Many seniors have told me they only can see orange. This discussion comes up regularly here too.  Some players do moan about orange balls, but the more important issue is keeping as many venues viable as possible.  They just have to get on with it for the greater good. "the greater good"

I ordered some DHS D40+ 3* orange balls from aliexpress and got them last week.

QC was poor. 2 of the first 3 balls out of the box sounded bad, like they were cracked. I put a flashlight up to them in the dark and they didn't have any visible cracks.

The third ball played ok. The orange ball didn't play exactly like the white D40+. It seemed to float a little more.

I did a quick and dirty unscientific drop test between a handful of new D40+ orange/white balls. The orange balls consistently bounced slightly higher. Not a big difference like D40+ vs XSF seamless, but definitely a slightly higher bounce.

The orange D40+ is a good option for people who play in places with bad visibility with a warning about DHS quality control.

If other brands resell this ball under their own name and demand better QC from DHS, then that could be a better option.

You can’t really see the spin better than with white balls. When it spins fast you can’t separate the different colors.

opinari wrote: igorponger wrote: Nittaku NEXCELL bogus. You can surely tell a bogus ball through the blurriness of the stamp.   Yes, you can get this bogus product from a China marketplace, priced at 2.50 USD.   Chinese can make much money by selling those fake NEXCELL. Be happy. That's odd, the stamp for the red stars is also a bit off - in all other Nittaku balls, it's correctly aligned.

proSpin wrote: Lol. Nittaku premium = spin. Ok can. I can roughly estimate the difference between our level. On a separate note, It’s easy to mistake power for spin. Especially when the ball is so heavy and hard, amateurs think it’s spin they feel. <and from earlier post> Unfortunately not in China where most players prefer spin.  Guess players who can’t generate or receive spin love Premium because it’s easy to hit

Lol. Nittaku premium = spin.
Ok can. I can roughly estimate the difference between our level.
On a separate note, It’s easy to mistake power for spin.
Especially when the ball is so heavy and hard, amateurs think it’s spin they feel.

Edited by proSpin - 07/27/2018 at 3:34am

benfb wrote: proSpin wrote:   Members in my club hated to play with Nittaku premium, so they know it is nothing like premium. Not even close to premium in my opinion. lol This is very interesting.  Virtually everyone in my part of the USA, from 1400-2600, prefers the Nittaku Premium over all other balls. Personally, I try to play with many different balls so I'm not thrown off if a tournament requires something weird (like the recent World Veterans).

Unfortunately not in China where most players prefer spin.
Guess players who can’t generate or receive spin love Premium because it’s easy to hit.

igorponger wrote: Nittaku NEXCELL bogus. You can surely tell a bogus ball through the blurriness of the stamp.   Yes, you can get this bogus product from a China marketplace, priced at 2.50 USD.   Chinese can make much money by selling those fake NEXCELL. Be happy.

Nittaku NEXCELL bogus. You can surely tell a bogus ball through the blurriness of the stamp.   Yes, you can get this bogus product from a China marketplace, priced at 2.50 USD.   Chinese can make much money by selling those fake NEXCELL.

Be happy.

proSpin wrote: Come on, the least you could do is upload a nicer picture   I received the Sample Nexcel ball 2 weeks ago. And for sure, i can tell you that it does not play anything like Nittaku SHA/Premium.  It does play a little like the old Celluloid balls but not as hard.  The sound of the ball is decent, does not sound too plastic like SHA or too hard like Premium. Clubmates commented that it is nice but they are not used to seeing orange ball after playing white for so long. Speed is decent, however, i feel spin is not too heavy. On hitting, the ball seems to be lighter than D40+. I keep getting the impression that the ball is at 40mm instead of 40+mm, maybe when the official ones get released, they are more consistent or even better.