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    Posted: 06/12/2018 at 4:15pm
Hi, it is yet approved the plastic ball Nittaku Nexcel 40+*** in Orange (!!).

Somebody knows where it is for sale?.

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Nittaku Nexcell expectable cost of 3 USD a piece.. really at price of gold.
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Poly ball is a s..t, orange balls were S..ts....orange poly balls will be big s..ts.. TT has to be played with only 1 color for the balls: white. It is already difficult to deal with the white polyballs from different brands which clubs can use in Belgian competition for instance. For instance, my club uses xushuofa but other clubs use xiom, donic, tibhar or the worst ones: stiga....each time we play away, we have to deal with totally different balls....if clubs are allowed using orange balls or white, that will add another difficultiy: you have to adapt your vision which is not easy for everybody.

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But what if you play where the walls are white? There are some other practicalities. Many seniors have told me they only can see orange.
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Originally posted by cole_ely cole_ely wrote:

But what if you play where the walls are white? There are some other practicalities. Many seniors have told me they only can see orange.

This discussion comes up regularly here too.  Some players do moan about orange balls, but the more important issue is keeping as many venues viable as possible.  They just have to get on with it for the greater good.
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Originally posted by cole_ely cole_ely wrote:

But what if you play where the walls are white? There are some other practicalities. Many seniors have told me they only can see orange.
 

I agree, 

at some venues it is easier to see an orange ball depending on the lighting and wall color. Back in celluloid days I preferred the orange ball but had to make the switch to white with poly.
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Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:

Nittaku Nexcell expectable cost of 3 USD a piece.. really at price of gold.
Double Fish V40+ 0.6 USD, on sale right now from Aliexpress.
   I do prefer DF, just due to my mental sanity.    
 

I played with DF V40+ at NCTTA tournament and those balls are absolute cr*p. For training maybe they are ok, but for match play I prefer NP40+, DHS D40+, and BTY A40+.
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I played with a Joola ball yesterday for the first time.  It was absolutely terrible.  We have more or less standardized on Nittaku Premiums here, so changing is always tricky.

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I played with a Joola ball yesterday for the first time.  It was absolutely terrible.  We have more or less standardized on Nittaku Premiums here, so changing is always tricky.

ILya
 

The joola ball is terrible too. Reminds me of the XSF balls which I highly dislike now. Both of these have bad QC issues.
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Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I played with a Joola ball yesterday for the first time.  It was absolutely terrible.  We have more or less standardized on Nittaku Premiums here, so changing is always tricky.

ILya
 

The joola ball is terrible too. Reminds me of the XSF balls which I highly dislike now. Both of these have bad QC issues.

A couple of guys at my club are going to the tournament in Vegas next week where, apparently, Joola balls will be used, so we played with those yesterday. 

They are soft, light and have extremely inconsistent bounce.  Using them in Vegas will make it even worse.

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Try playing with white balls in a racquetball court. We need orange 3* poly. People who don't like oramge don't have to buy them.
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When you mention the Joola balls are you referring to the Joola Flash balls? They bounce higher than the Nittaku and new DHS+ balls so I can understand why players wouldn't like them.
The new ABS Joola Prime poly balls are made by DHS I'm told and they bounce similarly to the Nittaku ones. We use the new Prime balls at my club and most players are fine with them.
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Originally posted by cole_ely cole_ely wrote:

But what if you play where the walls are white? There are some other practicalities. Many seniors have told me they only can see orange.

Well, I can only speak about clubs in Belgium.
White walls in places where we have TT competition are normally not allowed. 
In very low divisions, a few clubs use school halls for playing and it is possible to find some rare places with white walls.
most of the clubs have had their walls painted in light blue, grey, orange...
In my league, we have 12 teams, so 22 days of championship a season, that means 11 days away.
When you go playing away, you only have +/-30 minutes of training before the competition begins.
It is already complicated to be competitive with the different brands of polyballs of course because you are used to train with the brand which is used by your club.
If you add a different colour, that will be worse for me, because for instance :
-match day one : will play with white xushuofa;
-match day two: will play with stiga optimum white
-match day three, will play with xushuofa white
-match day four, will play with nittaku orange
-match day five, will play with joola white....
.......
I have eyes problems for switching from white to orange and from one brand of balls to another with only 30 minutes warming before competition.



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Originally posted by AcudaDave AcudaDave wrote:

When you mention the Joola balls are you referring to the Joola Flash balls? They bounce higher than the Nittaku and new DHS+ balls so I can understand why players wouldn't like them.
The new ABS Joola Prime poly balls are made by DHS I'm told and they bounce similarly to the Nittaku ones. We use the new Prime balls at my club and most players are fine with them.

I am not sure which these are.  Probably Flash.  They were white with blue writing on them and I think they were seamless.

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Originally posted by AcudaDave AcudaDave wrote:

When you mention the Joola balls are you referring to the Joola Flash balls? They bounce higher than the Nittaku and new DHS+ balls so I can understand why players wouldn't like them.
The new ABS Joola Prime poly balls are made by DHS I'm told and they bounce similarly to the Nittaku ones. We use the new Prime balls at my club and most players are fine with them.

I am not sure which these are.  Probably Flash.  They were white with blue writing on them and I think they were seamless.

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