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    Posted: 06/19/2018 at 1:35pm
can anyone give some comment on this photo?
from the beginning of the game, the rubber looks like already has some kind of powder 
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If I had to guess, it does not have anything to do with the rubber but with the plastic ball. Some of the newer balls have some kind of dust or powder on the surface which makes them feel a little "raw". So, anyway, whenever we use a new ball (we primarily play with Nittaku Premium and the new Sanwei ABS), it (at first) leaves some white dust markings on the rubber, but it does not really affect play. After a few hours of play, one cannot feel any of the dust/powder anymore on the ball...
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New ABS balls are often kind of dusty and leave those kinds of marks on your rubber. 
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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

New ABS balls are often kind of dusty and leave those kinds of marks on your rubber. 
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When ever I get new balls I put them in a strainer and rinse them off before use. That way I don't have to deal with that white powder .
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Why not clean like Ovtcharov?





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Clone post.   Aborted.

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SCURF CLEANER.

Yes, as per usual most of international umpires will take off the white plastic scurf from the new balls by using their own pocket snotrag.

It is antihygienic anyway, so a German enterpriser did offer a "scurf cleaner" as the best hygienic cleaner, for the good of the German domestic umpires.



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The powder affects tacky rubbers, after even a short period of multiball training, it creates a layer on the rubber that I can't just blow off with my breath and rubbing. I can't say it wrecks tacky rubber play, but it's not something I can just ignore.
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Originally posted by jk92 jk92 wrote:

The powder affects tacky rubbers, after even a short period of multiball training, it creates a layer on the rubber that I can't just blow off with my breath and rubbing. I can't say it wrecks tacky rubber play, but it's not something I can just ignore.

You just need to breathe on it more! sometimes this happened to my hurricane, you really just have to keep breathing low, heavy breaths until the condensation builds up to the point that it almost feels wet, so you can brush the dust off.


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Originally posted by Argothman Argothman wrote:

Originally posted by jk92 jk92 wrote:

The powder affects tacky rubbers, after even a short period of multiball training, it creates a layer on the rubber that I can't just blow off with my breath and rubbing. I can't say it wrecks tacky rubber play, but it's not something I can just ignore.

You just need to breathe on it more! sometimes this happened to my hurricane, you really just have to keep breathing low, heavy breaths until the condensation builds up to the point that it almost feels wet, so you can brush the dust off.

I was speaking with regards to the ABS ball in particular, we use double fish v40+ at our club and I also have them with my robot at home. The previous poly/cellulose acetate balls worked with the method you described but with the new ball I need to droll on my rubber to get it off practically Embarrassed
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Hey Igorponger, I never knew that existed. Are they for sale..?

That is a really good and hygienic way of cleaning TT balls before matches...

Thanks for sharing...
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Originally posted by CraneStyle CraneStyle wrote:

Hey Igorponger, I never knew that existed. Are they for sale..?

That is a really good and hygienic way of cleaning TT balls before matches...

Thanks for sharing...

here you go, it's quite cheap, too. only 12,90 euro

http://www.soulspin.tt/en/shop/details.html?tt_products%5BbackPID%5D=5&tt_products%5Bcat%5D=7&tt_products%5Bproduct%5D=8593&cHash=ce8bafe7ef04a914cdff1efba77b27c3
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Originally posted by Fabian1890 Fabian1890 wrote:

Originally posted by CraneStyle CraneStyle wrote:

Hey Igorponger, I never knew that existed. Are they for sale..?

That is a really good and hygienic way of cleaning TT balls before matches...

Thanks for sharing...


here you go, it's quite cheap, too. only 12,90 euro

http://www.soulspin.tt/en/shop/details.html?tt_products%5BbackPID%5D=5&tt_products%5Bcat%5D=7&tt_products%5Bproduct%5D=8593&cHash=ce8bafe7ef04a914cdff1efba77b27c3


Thanks Fabian1890, much appreciated...
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Originally posted by jk92 jk92 wrote:

Originally posted by Argothman Argothman wrote:

Originally posted by jk92 jk92 wrote:

The powder affects tacky rubbers, after even a short period of multiball training, it creates a layer on the rubber that I can't just blow off with my breath and rubbing. I can't say it wrecks tacky rubber play, but it's not something I can just ignore.

You just need to breathe on it more! sometimes this happened to my hurricane, you really just have to keep breathing low, heavy breaths until the condensation builds up to the point that it almost feels wet, so you can brush the dust off.

I was speaking with regards to the ABS ball in particular, we use double fish v40+ at our club and I also have them with my robot at home. The previous poly/cellulose acetate balls worked with the method you described but with the new ball I need to droll on my rubber to get it off practically Embarrassed
spit on the rubber and rub it clean


Edited by Egghead - 06/20/2018 at 3:41pm
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good stuff Igor, thank you.
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Originally posted by CraneStyle CraneStyle wrote:

Originally posted by Fabian1890 Fabian1890 wrote:

Originally posted by CraneStyle CraneStyle wrote:

Hey Igorponger, I never knew that existed. Are they for sale..?

That is a really good and hygienic way of cleaning TT balls before matches...

Thanks for sharing...


here you go, it's quite cheap, too. only 12,90 euro

http://www.soulspin.tt/en/shop/details.html?tt_products%5BbackPID%5D=5&tt_products%5Bcat%5D=7&tt_products%5Bproduct%5D=8593&cHash=ce8bafe7ef04a914cdff1efba77b27c3


Thanks Fabian1890, much appreciated...
It comes with some grinding sheets as well. Does the tool sand the ball surface too?

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Originally posted by jk92 jk92 wrote:

Originally posted by Argothman Argothman wrote:

Originally posted by jk92 jk92 wrote:

The powder affects tacky rubbers, after even a short period of multiball training, it creates a layer on the rubber that I can't just blow off with my breath and rubbing. I can't say it wrecks tacky rubber play, but it's not something I can just ignore.

You just need to breathe on it more! sometimes this happened to my hurricane, you really just have to keep breathing low, heavy breaths until the condensation builds up to the point that it almost feels wet, so you can brush the dust off.

I was speaking with regards to the ABS ball in particular, we use double fish v40+ at our club and I also have them with my robot at home. The previous poly/cellulose acetate balls worked with the method you described but with the new ball I need to droll on my rubber to get it off practically Embarrassed

That's pretty crazy! I am indeed talking from experience with the old poly ball, I haven't competed with new balls with the newer poly ball yet!
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So you need to waste a rubber to clean the ball?  Even an old rubber, how many balls can you clean with one rubber?  Seems like they should provide some reusable item instead of a rubber.
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Is that how consistent Harimoto is? the build up of the white powder is almost in the same place Shocked
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Originally posted by ybok ybok wrote:

So you need to waste a rubber to clean the ball?  Even an old rubber, how many balls can you clean with one rubber?  Seems like they should provide some reusable item instead of a rubber.
The cleaner comes with some grinding sheets

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If this was pimple rubber with white powder Egghead would be telling the World about this cheating
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Yes, but then you need to grind it on a rubber.
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SOME TRAGEDY



A GOOD LESSON TO ALL: Just keep your rubber and the ball clearn ALL ALONG THE MATCH.    



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