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jonyer1980
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Posted: 06/21/2018 at 5:59pm |
I'm a MXP user and former user of Bluefire M1. would you recommended me Bluestorm series over MXP or FXS/Z3?
Which is the difference between Z1/Z2? looks like they've got same hardness. Edited by jonyer1980 - 06/21/2018 at 6:00pm |
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Hans Regenkurt
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I would definitely not recommend to anyone Z2 or Z3 if they normally play with MXP. Z1, I might, but I want to test it out again next week. Z2 is an okay rubber from beginners to lower-intermediate players. Z3 is for beginners only in my view. Luckily, I have a sheet of Z1 Turbo and I have played 6-8 hurs with it. 4 hours on Zhang Jike ALC and another 4 on Stiga Celero. Donic have launched a product that is harder than Z1 but by no means a step forward. It is a bit harder and difficult to loop more than 4 in a row. The first two loops are good with good spin and speed but after that the rubber loses grip and pace. Plain Z1 is a lot better without tuning. After scratching my head over the Turbo, I decided to boost it with a substantial layer of Revo. I will report back in a couple of days but the bottom line is that Z1 is the best of the Bluestorm series but not really better than MXP overall.
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Pip geometry. Z1 has closer pips, more spin. Z2 has longer and more spaced pips, more catapult/feel. I found Z2 pretty mushy even on ALC blades while Z1 is a very good rubber. Found max thickness (2.3) a little bit softer compared to M1 or MXP.
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jonyer1980
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Thanks you both form the reply!
I was suspecting it was pips geometry too. So, do I keep using M1/MXP? ESN formula barely hasn't changed since the release of 2013 Evo series/bluefire. How about the speed and spin on Z2/Z3 compared to former Bluefires M2/M3? Bluefire M3 was quite faster and spinny for a soft rubber. |
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Hans Regenkurt
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Having tried both Z2 and Z3 I think M3 is better than both of them in every aspect.
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jonyer1980
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For sure Bluefire series was a huge improvement on ESN rubbers, but which one would you get as a replacement of M1/M2?
I don't get why ESN keeps releasing same rubbers as before like Donic Acuda Blue or this Bluestorm series... Theres nothing really new from the release of Bluefire gen rubbbers. |
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To put in my 2 cents. Compared to M3, I consider Z2 harder, faster, and spinnier. Z3 is spinnier but slower. I think all Donic rubbers have durability issues but that's a different topic.
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