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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jk92 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/24/2018 at 1:51pm
Hard tacky rubbers are no go on RPB, the stroke needed to get the most out of the rubber just doesn't make sense on the backhand.

The genesis sponge is fast and dynamic enough for a more typical EuroJap backhand stroke, but with the right hitting angle and brushing, you get an extra little bit of tack to help with the spin. I normally play ESN rubber on the backhand, so the technique is different, but it's possible to get some aggressive shots out with the Genesis II s
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I think I have played 6 sessions now with Genesis II M. I'm winning more than I was with Tenergy. I'm not saying it's better. It is just different and it suits my skill level better I guess. If you're currently playing the first version of Genesis M, you should switch to this one. It's better in every aspect. Someone mentioned G2S being spin sensitive. I don't feel that at all. If you use an active stroke, it's very controllable.
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I just wanted to give an update on the Genesis ii M. I've been playing it for about two weeks. The topsheet already looks quite old, I can already see a lot of wear in the spot where I normally hit the ball. The speed has also kicked up a bit after the break-in period. The overall feel isn't quite as hard a before, I guess the sponge has loosened up a little bit. I'm still enjoying the rubber. 
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Estimated playing level 1950ish.
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Originally posted by ericd937 ericd937 wrote:

I just wanted to give an update on the Genesis ii M. I've been playing it for about two weeks. The topsheet already looks quite old, I can already see a lot of wear in the spot where I normally hit the ball. The speed has also kicked up a bit after the break-in period. The overall feel isn't quite as hard a before, I guess the sponge has loosened up a little bit. I'm still enjoying the rubber. 

Conversely, I've been using Genesis II M for a month and have been impressed with how little wear the topsheet is showing - I wonder if this is down to variation in the rubbers or the conditions they are being used in?

I have also noticed it doesn't feel quite as hard after it has broken in.
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Thanks for the updates!

According to Stiga: Genesis II Spin is also sustainably developed to increase the durability and life expectancy of the rubber. 

What would you say about the tackiness after all this time? Does it still have the amount of spin?
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Originally posted by wanchope wanchope wrote:

Thanks for the updates!

According to Stiga: Genesis II Spin is also sustainably developed to increase the durability and life expectancy of the rubber. 

What would you say about the tackiness after all this time? Does it still have the amount of spin?

The tackiness doesn't seem to have dropped off very much, if at all. 
It was slightly less tacky than a typical DHS rubber to start with, but it doesn't seem to be getting less tacky very quickly.
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Hey guys,

I'm searching the net for some feedback on Genesis II vs. Genesis 1... been playing with a Genesis M in FH for about 2 years, I've used a H3 Neo lately but not 100% convinced yet (there are advantages and drawbacks, I'm not sure if I play better or worse with it)... and it looks like that Genesis II might be an intermediate between Genesis 1 and H3.

For those who know those rubber, am I right? It looks like Genesis II is much tackier than 1st gen (good grip but almost non tacky in my experience)... so I expect better short game, for instance.
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Unfortunately, I've never played H3 Neo. However, I've played with Genesis 1 S/M, and also Genesis II M. Genesis II is much better overall than Genesis M. Very similar, but a little bit faster, a little bit tackier, and a little bit spinier. In my experience the top sheet looks old quickly, but it doesn't hurt the performance. In fact, I find that the the performance of Genesis II actually increased after 1 or 2 weeks. I've actually came back to this rubber after using Gewo Nexxus El Pro 48, which was a great rubber until it started coming off my racket. When I reglued it, the Gewo shrunk significantly which lead to decreased performance. 
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Hey Eric, thanks for your answer! Even if you've not played H3Neo, the comparison between both Genesis generations is already very interesting, and not that easy to find :) I'll be playing with my last sheet of Genesis 1 M again for a while, and see how it behaves after 1+ month playing with the H3 Neo. But your comment makes me think that after this last sheet of G1M, G2M might be interesting for me.

By the way, does anyone here know if Genesis II will replace Genesis 1st gen, or if they will both keep on existing (like Omega 4/5/7 etc. for Xiom)? I noticed that both generations are still listed on Stiga website, but that's about all I know...
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If you check tt11, the g1 series are already in the clearance section. I guess that the older generation is just phasing away.
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I think there is no reason to keep Genesis 1 around since Genesis II is so similar, but much better. 
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Xiom Zetro Quad
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