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    Posted: 09/09/2018 at 2:05pm
Want to brain storm a list of rule changes that's more spectator friendly but not necessary good for the sport. 

Lots of post out there claiming TT is too difficult for a sport for novice to understand. Even in a pro level match, if there's enough skill level gap between the two players, the match will look like a player keeps making unforced errors. It's no fun to watch. With that in mind, non pro level tournament is atrocious to watch. 


On top of my head i'll say

1. Raise net
2. Ban short/long/anti
3. Increase table size. 

Obviously, those points are bad for the sport. (although i think 3 may not be so bad)I think it will make watching TT more enjoyable. 
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Raising the net will make spin play more important and kill the LP/SP/Anti anyway so 2) is largely included in 1). Those 2 changes would evolve the game toward uniformity and boredom, more athleticism in a wider pool of dumbness. 

Table size? The footwork to produce to perform at actual table size is already so hard.

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The year is 20XX. The ITTF has increased the ball size to 44mm. Spin is useless, so everyone uses thick stiff carbon blades with short pips.
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They have pickelball for people who want to play like that.
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As a relatively young 6'3 tt player I would love those 3 things to happen (add to 3 -> increase table height). It would favor athleticism over deception making it more enjoyable for the spectator, BUT... it would certainly force older population of players to retire earlier thus destroying the one thing about this sport that makes it so unique: the ability to play and enjoy this sport well past your 60s which is why I admire it so much. 

Don't want to beat the dead horse here but something has to be done about the service rule though. It needs to be cleared up and standardized on world level which imo would improve it for the spectators.


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Originally posted by cole_ely cole_ely wrote:

They have pickelball for people who want to play like that.


+1, when I was in junior high school they made us play paddle tennis in PE class. Pickle ball is slowed down paddle tennis. Lots of seniors like it.

Leave tt alone. I could care less about attracting more spectators.

Every year or two someone starts a thread on this topic. You will get the same suggestions/comments as the last 5 threads like this. It's just noise.
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My list of what must be done in TT is resumed to one: STOP making f*cking changes in the sport.
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No net at all would make the game even more simple and encourage every random gardener or maid to play. Sadly, former ITTF president Adam Shalala forgot about this great change.

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Originally posted by hunkeelin hunkeelin wrote:


2. Ban short/long/anti
 

Sure, let's get rid of defensive styles altogether. 
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Originally posted by hunkeelin hunkeelin wrote:

Want to brain storm a list of rule changes that's more spectator friendly but not necessary good for the sport.



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if you want those changes please play lawn tennis. leave table tennis alone. i think table tennis was much more popular when it was much difficult than today. 38mm ball, speed glue, kreanga carbon+bryce fx. oh i love it.
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Yeah I seriously doubt TT is more popular than before they made those changes. I mean this sport is intrinsically NOT spectator friendly. Small ball (even you make it 45mm), small table, small court. Everything is small compared to other racket sports, let alone something like soccer or basketball. Why force it with rule changes? TT will never be able to compete against a sport like tennis...

Originally posted by anjan anjan wrote:

if you want those changes please play lawn tennis. leave table tennis alone. i think table tennis was much more popular when it was much difficult than today. 38mm ball, speed glue, kreanga carbon+bryce fx. oh i love it.
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Originally posted by anjan anjan wrote:

if you want those changes please play lawn tennis. leave table tennis alone. i think table tennis was much more popular when it was much difficult than today. 38mm ball, speed glue, kreanga carbon+bryce fx. oh i love it.

Right, you wouldn't want to make chess or go easier. So why table tennis?
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Originally posted by hunkeelin hunkeelin wrote:

Want to brain storm a list of rule changes that's more spectator friendly but not necessary good for the sport. 

Lots of post out there claiming TT is too difficult for a sport for novice to understand. Even in a pro level match, if there's enough skill level gap between the two players, the match will look like a player keeps making unforced errors. It's no fun to watch. With that in mind, non pro level tournament is atrocious to watch. 


On top of my head i'll say

1. Raise net
2. Ban short/long/anti
3. Increase table size. 

Obviously, those points are bad for the sport. (although i think 3 may not be so bad)I think it will make watching TT more enjoyable. 
The only one of these under serious consideration in recent years was #1.  I personally thought that the net height should have been adjusted when they switched to 40+ balls to correspond to the change in the ways balls bounce.
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Showing table tennis on TV would be the starting point
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Originally posted by smackman smackman wrote:

Showing table tennis on TV would be the starting point

^ that's a genius idea. Screw the rule changes, the video needs to change. 
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Originally posted by hunkeelin hunkeelin wrote:

Originally posted by smackman smackman wrote:

Showing table tennis on TV would be the starting point


^ that's a genius idea. Screw the rule changes, the video needs to change. 

This and fix atrocious cutting/highlight videos/camera angles.
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Originally posted by IanMcg IanMcg wrote:

Originally posted by hunkeelin hunkeelin wrote:

Originally posted by smackman smackman wrote:

Showing table tennis on TV would be the starting point


^ that's a genius idea. Screw the rule changes, the video needs to change. 

This and fix atrocious cutting/highlight videos/camera angles.


Yeah the top down angle is completely crap...just film from the side at net height!
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