1.7 mm vs 2.0 mm FH vs BH Rule of Thumb?

Any suggestions on which sponge thickness (1.7 or 2.0) should go to FH and BH? The particular rubber I have in mind is Rasanter V42 or R42 but feel free to assume other ESN rubber of comparable thickness. Let's assume this is for an allround player rated 1,500 for the purpose of this discussion.

Go for 1.7 both sides.

Ttgold, I read a lot of europeans, and maybe germans in particular, putting value in using thinner sponges. In the US the most common recommendation is to use max or 2.1, whatever, from the start.

Do you really think it makes a lot of difference between 1.9 and 2.1, or similar example? And in what aspect, control I guess, but how? The topsheet is obviously the same, so only pretty strong, fast strokes thst engage the sponge will see any difference.

Just curious, because it seems to me the brand/model of rubber will make a lot of difference, and the thickness little.

BRS wrote: Ttgold, I read a lot of europeans, and maybe germans in particular, putting value in using thinner sponges. In the US the most common recommendation is to use max or 2.1, whatever, from the start. Do you really think it makes a lot of difference between 1.9 and 2.1, or similar example? And in what aspect, control I guess, but how? The topsheet is obviously the same, so only pretty strong, fast strokes thst engage the sponge will see any difference. Just curious, because it seems to me the brand/model of rubber will make a lot of difference, and the thickness little.

when you start playing you usually start of with a basic all wood and thinner rubbers. No fancy tenergies or rasanter and so on. I myself started with a stiga allround classic and sriver 1.7 or 1.9. Because he said he's rated 1500 and is an allround player a 1.7 seems better than a 2.0. I think having a thinner spong teaches you to create the speed and overall shot quality by yourself. Also gives you more control. In the us they might put on max rubbers from the beginning, but these guys are often the guys trying to get their shot quality up by buying faster equipment rather than actually working on a proper technique. Might sound a bit harsh, but that's what I've witnessed over the last couple of years.

Tt Gold wrote: BRS wrote: Ttgold, I read a lot of europeans, and maybe germans in particular, putting value in using thinner sponges. In the US the most common recommendation is to use max or 2.1, whatever, from the start. Do you really think it makes a lot of difference between 1.9 and 2.1, or similar example? And in what aspect, control I guess, but how? The topsheet is obviously the same, so only pretty strong, fast strokes thst engage the sponge will see any difference. Just curious, because it seems to me the brand/model of rubber will make a lot of difference, and the thickness little. when you start playing you usually start of with a basic all wood and thinner rubbers. No fancy tenergies or rasanter and so on. I myself started with a stiga allround classic and sriver 1.7 or 1.9. Because he said he's rated 1500 and is an allround player a 1.7 seems better than a 2.0. I think having a thinner spong teaches you to create the speed and overall shot quality by yourself. Also gives you more control. In the us they might put on max rubbers from the beginning, but these guys are often the guys trying to get their shot quality up by buying faster equipment rather than actually working on a proper technique. Might sound a bit harsh, but that's what I've witnessed over the last couple of years.

V42 is very linear and controllable. I would not call it fancy rubber. R42 can catapult occasionally on not very strong stroke so it is less predictable.

Dream1700 wrote: V42 is very linear and controllable. I would not call it fancy rubber. R42 can catapult occasionally on not very strong stroke so it is less predictable. maybe V42 is the new gold standard for an average player suitable for the plastic ball.

I used V42 2.3 MAX last night on an OFF- blade as a BH rubber and was very impressed with its control, placement, good spin serves, lifting Back Spin overall a very functional rubber. With quality BH strokes I was able to generate strong counter strokes with nice arc . Also when I was glueing the rubber I noticed it was very tough had to work hard to pull the excess rubber apart after I glued. The only other rubber that has that toughness is Tenergy 05 in my experience. I had been using Tenergy 05 and Rozena on my BH but the V42 2.3 is a better option close to the table.

Personally, 2.0 both is good, or max on fh. But, I tried r47 2.0 on fh and r42 2.0 on bh on three different blades(yinhe pro feeling, yinhe mc2, andro treiber k), didn't like it at all (I used to slightly older generation rubbers, like vega pro, rakza and t05). So these new rubbers with soft topsheet for me are bigger problem than thickness, with old gen rubbers I can play well with 1.8 - max .

Try V15 extra, plays more similar than the spongy new gen rubbers.