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    Posted: 10/25/2006 at 1:37am

Got this news from the USATT website, anybody know what's going on? so no more dawei for tournaments?

http://www.usatt.org/news1/DAWEI_Equipment_Suspended.shtml

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The ITTF Executive Committee wishes to inform you that all ITTF authorisations for DAWEI equipment have been suspended as of 1st October 2006 and all DAWEI racket coverings withdrawn from ITTF lists with immediate effect !!!


Wow...


but why ?
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Can't see it on the ITTF website, so is it true?

The only Dawei equipment the ITTF approves is their rubbers, so their blades and other stuff would not be affected.

I love their rubbers and will continue using them regardless.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote *JC* Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/25/2006 at 7:35am
i would not be with out my dawei blade - so im lucky that ittf dont have to approve blades.

PS: im very lucky that i have a spare wavestone....
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WOW? Explanation is in order. Seems more like a bad April fools joke to me, even though its not April.
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www.daweisports.com has also been down recently
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WHAT! I love my 388D. Eff that. good thing Im switching soon anyway, I guess. I wonder why? Typical USATT not giving a reason eiher.
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I talked to them last night.  Dawei claims that it goes back to a dispute in charges when they sponsored the worlds in '02. Kind of like the usatt/kspin deal I guess.

I'm just surprised that the usatt felt driven to put it up there so fast and so prominent.  Something tells me there's some motivations here.  Usatt also told me they would be happy to approve the rubber if dawei paid the fees.  Surprise, huh?

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Fees are Fees but I agree, it stinks of something politcal and beurocratic.
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they will be usatt approved in a few days

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I don't get why this is not announced on the ITTF website, surely this affect everyone, not just the USA, so it should be announced formally by the ITTF?
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yea, it affects everyone, just not in the USA
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you must be kidding... oh no!
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shouldnt be off the list for long and wont effect usa customers because its going to be usatt approved in a few days meaning allowed for all usa touraments
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what am I gonna do now.I have tournament this weekend
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go and play and don't think or say a thing about it.

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I Emailed the ITTF regarding and got this reply:

"The suspension is due to over-due unpaid account." ITTF.

I asked for further information after explaining to them how many people this would affect, and I got the following reply:

"The dispute is over a period of 4 years, and at the end such drastic measures must be taken. The ITTF decision is based on a sound and correct decision and no further information is necessary. It is now up to Dawei to settle this matter quickly. ITTF "

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"Dear ITTF,
Due to your 'sound and correct decision,' I'm now changing to Dawei Inspirit rubbers. Thanks for watching out for us tt players.

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Ridiculous. Suspension on use of tt equipment should be based on adherence to rules and regulations. Monetary dispute between ittf and dawei should involve accountants and lawyers, NOT tt players around the world. shame on ittf.
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Well said! I (gently) pointed this out in my Email to the ITTF, but it seems they don't see it that way!

Perhaps some more of us should Email them, and point out that they are supposed to represent the players!

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Dear Adham Shara,

For the sake of the table tennis community, could ITTF please revise their stated rules on "How to achieve an authorization for Racket coverings" (http://www.ittf.com/equipment/Racket_cover_APPROVAL.pdf) to include a statement along the lines of "any unpaid monies will result to non approval".

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I like it!

I wonder if they can actually legally suspend rubbers if the outstanding money is not actually related to the payments for approval.

I think both gundam and samdeliman's point are very valid, and perhaps if some more of us send Emails pointing this out to the ITTF, they may reconsider (doubt it though!). Remember if they don't hear any complaints, they think we're happy!

 

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Do we HAVE representatives at the ITTF?
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The way I see it is that Dawei owes it to all its customers to pay the damn fees on time. Buterfly, Stiga, Donic, Andro, DHS, Friendship, etc. don't have this problem. I think all you Dawei users should email them and not the ITTF.
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It's NOT a standard fee for rubber approval.

This is a different charge related to some event that Dawei sponsored about 4 years ago, and Dawei claims that it's a mistake since it's not them that incurred the charge but another company...

So it's got nothing to do with Dawei looking after it's customers...

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Dawei has always paid the approval fees. During the '02 worlds a marketing company handled that event. They solicited dawei as a sponsor, and dawei paid the appropriate fees. Now this company no longer exists. ITTF has no better recourse, so they're going after dawei stationary and sporting goods.

A lot of this is in the spin of the terminology. ITTF calls them delinquent charges. Dawei calls them unjust charges. A court would call them disputed charges.

Seems to me if they had a legitimate case they'd take it through the proper channels of court. However, in an international deal like this there may be no court. Unfortunately, that also means the current dawei company may also have no recourse.

Personally, I've decided to believe dawei and went ahead and placed a $400 order with them. The guy I talk too seems like a very nice guy. I'm sure one way or the other it will get worked out. If I have to I'll get it usatt approved. I know that doesn't help you guys in other countries though. The rubbers they're making now are so good I consider it a legitimate risk to take. Inspirit is purely fantastic and I believe saviga will be even better. I'm not letting anybody order it until I've made sure they're full aware of the current situation.
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How much do ITTF equipment approval fees cost?
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I can tell you usatt, but not ittf.
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