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Go Dima :)



His form is not great lately. Anyone wanna place some bets?
* Who'll win?
* How far can Harimoto go?
* How many matches can Jha win?

You can raise what you're interested in personally. I'm curious on how Lin will do, even though I don't expect him to win.
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Jha 0 matches.
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Originally posted by ZingyDNA ZingyDNA wrote:

Originally posted by chroot chroot wrote:

Go Dima :)



His form is not great lately. Anyone wanna place some bets?
* Who'll win?
* How far can Harimoto go?
* How many matches can Jha win?

You can raise what you're interested in personally. I'm curious on how Lin will do, even though I don't expect him to win.

I know. Just wanted to bring a little fun on the table. Hope somebody like Timo or Dima can step up and challenge FZD's dominance this time. Harimoto could reach QF, Jha probably will win one match at most. Wish him to win it all, but have to face the reality.Ouch
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Jha 0 matches.


There used to be a preliminary tourney called something like the Continental Cup, where winners from weaker continents play to get into the main draw. Jha would get a win there at least vs the Oceana winner. But now they changed the format. With 20 players, those ranked from 9 to 20 will have a group stage: 4 groups of 3 players and top 2 advance from each group. I still think Jha can win a match, as long as the draw is not too tough.   
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Originally posted by ZingyDNA ZingyDNA wrote:

Originally posted by AgReZz AgReZz wrote:

Jha 0 matches.


There used to be a preliminary tourney called something like the Continental Cup, where winners from weaker continents play to get into the main draw. Jha would get a win there at least vs the Oceana winner. But now they changed the format. With 20 players, those ranked from 9 to 20 will have a group stage: 4 groups of 3 players and top 2 advance from each group. I still think Jha can win a match, as long as the draw is not too tough.   
Would the groups be assigned on a random basis?  If not Jha's chances are not good.
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Of the 20 players, top 8 go straight to the Main Draw.
The remaining 12 players will be divided in 4 groups. (Each group has 3 players.)

Player in the 3rd place (last place) in each group, gets eliminated.
The other 2 players advance to the Main Draw.
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It is quite a challenge for Kanak to get into the Main Draw.
Group information is not available yet, so don't know the names of Kanak's 2 opponents.



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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by ZingyDNA ZingyDNA wrote:

Originally posted by AgReZz AgReZz wrote:

Jha 0 matches.


There used to be a preliminary tourney called something like the Continental Cup, where winners from weaker continents play to get into the main draw. Jha would get a win there at least vs the Oceana winner. But now they changed the format. With 20 players, those ranked from 9 to 20 will have a group stage: 4 groups of 3 players and top 2 advance from each group. I still think Jha can win a match, as long as the draw is not too tough.   

Would the groups be assigned on a random basis?  If not Jha's chances are not good.


I believe players seeded 9, 10, 11 and 12 will be the top player in each group. The rest will be drawn randomly. So Jha will meet any one out of those seeded from 13 to 20, plus either Calderano, Gausy, Jeong, or Groth.

9 CALDERANO Hugo BRA 22-Jun-96 M 11 Pan Am Cup Winner
10 GAUZY Simon FRA 25-Oct-94 M 16 Host Country
11 JEONG Sangeun KOR 2-Apr-90 M 17 Asian Cup 4th place (3rd Qualifier)
12 GROTH Jonathan DEN 9-Nov-92 M 18 Europe Cup 3rd place (3rd Qualifier)
13 FALCK Mattias SWE 7-Sep-91 M 19 Europe Cup 5-8th position
14 ARUNA Quadri NGR 9-Aug-88 M 21 African Cup 2nd position
15 SAMSONOV Vladimir BLR 17-Apr-76 M 30 Europe Cup 4th position
16 TSUBOI Gustavo BRA 31-May-85 M 48 Pan Am Cup (2nd player)
17 LEBESSON Emmanuel FRA 24-Apr-88 M 50 Wild Card
18 JHA Kanak USA 19-Jun-00 M 67 Pan Am Cup 3rd position
19 GIONIS Panagiotis GRE 7-Jan-80 M 70 Europe Cup 5-8th position (Sub)
20 HU Heming AUS 21-Mar-94 M 170 Oceania Cup Winner

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The draw for the Group stage is coming out later today. I am hoping Kanak will be in the same group as either TSUBOI Gustavo or GROTH Jonathan so that he will have a chance to advance to the Main draw.
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Anybody knows why JM is not in the list?
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Originally posted by ZingyDNA ZingyDNA wrote:


I believe players seeded 9, 10, 11 and 12 will be the top player in each group. The rest will be drawn randomly.
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I believe players seeded 9, 10, 11 and 12 will be the top player in each group. ----- Sure thing.
The rest will be drawn randomly. ----- I don't think so.

I believe that the second player will be drawn randomly from 13, 14, 15 and 16.
And the 3rd player will be drawn randomly from 17, 18, 19 and 20.

Bottom line:  These four players 17, 18, 19 and 20, will never be in the same group.

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Originally posted by chroot chroot wrote:

The draw for the Group stage is coming out later today. I am hoping Kanak will be in the same group as either TSUBOI Gustavo or GROTH Jonathan so that he will have a chance to advance to the Main draw.


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Draw is out: Group A: Vladimir Samsonov, Hugo Calderano, Emmanuel Lebesson. Group B: Simon Gauzy, Quadri Aruna, Kanak Jha. Group C: Jeong Sangeun, Gionis, Gustavo Tsuboi. Group D: Jonathan Groth, Mattias Karlsson, Hu Heming.
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Originally posted by chroot chroot wrote:

The draw for the Group stage is coming out later today. I am hoping Kanak will be in the same group as either TSUBOI Gustavo or GROTH Jonathan so that he will have a chance to advance to the Main draw.
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ITTF head-to-head showed:  Jha has never played Groth.

ITTF head-to-head showed:  2015 Jha lost to Tsuboi, 0-4
                                          2017 Jha beat Tsuboi, 3-2
                                          2018 Jha lost to Tsuboi, 0-4

So, if this draw happens, Jha's chance to advance to the Main Draw is till very small.
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Originally posted by pipboy76 pipboy76 wrote:

Draw is out: Group A: Vladimir Samsonov, Hugo Calderano, Emmanuel Lebesson. Group B: Simon Gauzy, Quadri Aruna, Kanak Jha. Group C: Jeong Sangeun, Gionis, Gustavo Tsuboi. Group D: Jonathan Groth, Mattias Karlsson, Hu Heming.
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What is the Link to see that?
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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Originally posted by chroot chroot wrote:

The draw for the Group stage is coming out later today. I am hoping Kanak will be in the same group as either TSUBOI Gustavo or GROTH Jonathan so that he will have a chance to advance to the Main draw.
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ITTF head-to-head showed:  Jha has never played Groth.

ITTF head-to-head showed:  2015 Jha lost to Tsuboi, 0-4
                                          2017 Jha beat Tsuboi, 3-2
                                          2018 Jha lost to Tsuboi, 0-4

So, if this draw happens, Jha's chance to advance to the Main Draw is till very small.

His chance is fairly slim no matter what group he's in. He's made some progress this year but the gap is still there. It's tough to pursue a professional TT career in USA. I really hope he will not follow Ariel Hsing and Lili Zhang's path to go to college after 18. Would love to see him to play in some stronger leagues overseas. He's got the talent and mental toughness to be a really good player. A better coach and a few years playing in a better environment may help him reach another level.


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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Originally posted by pipboy76 pipboy76 wrote:

Draw is out: Group A: Vladimir Samsonov, Hugo Calderano, Emmanuel Lebesson. Group B: Simon Gauzy, Quadri Aruna, Kanak Jha. Group C: Jeong Sangeun, Gionis, Gustavo Tsuboi. Group D: Jonathan Groth, Mattias Karlsson, Hu Heming.
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What is the Link to see that?
Ittf instagram/FB page. Not sure why they haven't posted it on their website.


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Originally posted by pipboy76 pipboy76 wrote:

Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Originally posted by pipboy76 pipboy76 wrote:

Draw is out: Group A: Vladimir Samsonov, Hugo Calderano, Emmanuel Lebesson. Group B: Simon Gauzy, Quadri Aruna, Kanak Jha. Group C: Jeong Sangeun, Gionis, Gustavo Tsuboi. Group D: Jonathan Groth, Mattias Karlsson, Hu Heming.
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What is the Link to see that?
Ittf instagram/FB page. Not sure why they haven't posted it on their website.
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Thank you very much.
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Kanak Jha will face Simon Gauzy and Quadri Aruna.
His chance to advance to the Main Draw is mighty slim.


Edited by skip3119 - 10/18/2018 at 1:08pm
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So, if this draw happens, Jha's chance to advance to the Main Draw is till very small.
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His chance is fairly slim no matter what group he's in. He's made some progress this year but the gap is still there. It's tough to pursue a professional TT career in USA. I really hope he will not follow Ariel Hsing and Lili Zhang's path to go to college after 18. Would love to see him to play in some stronger leagues overseas. He's got the talent and mental toughness to be a really good player. A better coach and a few years playing in a better environment may help him reach another level.
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Kanak has been training in Germany the last two years.  Last year he played in the 3rd division and this year he's in the 2nd division.  I think he is doing well this year.

He has indicated that he wants to regularly play on the ITTF tour.
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He has indicated that he wants to regularly play on the ITTF tour.
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That will be very good for him to gain more experience.
He is still young, time is on his side.
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Originally posted by chroot chroot wrote:

Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Originally posted by chroot chroot wrote:

The draw for the Group stage is coming out later today. I am hoping Kanak will be in the same group as either TSUBOI Gustavo or GROTH Jonathan so that he will have a chance to advance to the Main draw.
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ITTF head-to-head showed:  Jha has never played Groth.

ITTF head-to-head showed:  2015 Jha lost to Tsuboi, 0-4
                                          2017 Jha beat Tsuboi, 3-2
                                          2018 Jha lost to Tsuboi, 0-4

So, if this draw happens, Jha's chance to advance to the Main Draw is till very small.


His chance is fairly slim no matter what group he's in. He's made some progress this year but the gap is still there. It's tough to pursue a professional TT career in USA. I really hope he will not follow Ariel Hsing and Lili Zhang's path to go to college after 18. Would love to see him to play in some stronger leagues overseas. He's got the talent and mental toughness to be a really good player. A better coach and a few years playing in a better environment may help him reach another level.



TT in the United States is a dead end little chance of any financial reward and a very short playing career path. If he has the mental capability far better to attend a high level U.S. University like Ariel and show up for TT photo ops !
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Originally posted by lineup32 lineup32 wrote:

Originally posted by chroot chroot wrote:

Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Originally posted by chroot chroot wrote:

The draw for the Group stage is coming out later today. I am hoping Kanak will be in the same group as either TSUBOI Gustavo or GROTH Jonathan so that he will have a chance to advance to the Main draw.
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ITTF head-to-head showed:  Jha has never played Groth.

ITTF head-to-head showed:  2015 Jha lost to Tsuboi, 0-4
                                          2017 Jha beat Tsuboi, 3-2
                                          2018 Jha lost to Tsuboi, 0-4

So, if this draw happens, Jha's chance to advance to the Main Draw is till very small.


His chance is fairly slim no matter what group he's in. He's made some progress this year but the gap is still there. It's tough to pursue a professional TT career in USA. I really hope he will not follow Ariel Hsing and Lili Zhang's path to go to college after 18. Would love to see him to play in some stronger leagues overseas. He's got the talent and mental toughness to be a really good player. A better coach and a few years playing in a better environment may help him reach another level.



TT in the United States is a dead end little chance of any financial reward and a very short playing career path. If he has the mental capability far better to attend a high level U.S. University like Ariel and show up for TT photo ops !


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