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Hi,

Some final thoughts:

o  An excellent tournament; tip of the hat to the organizers and all involved.

o  The Chinese are the best in the world; the Japanese are the second best in the world; hence the harmonic results.

o  In the finals, Hirano and Harimoto were great.

o  The seedings seem always to be a problematic/challenging item.  Wang was the 6th seed.

o  The third best player in the Women's draw was Bruna.

o  The third best player in the Men's draw was Lin.

o  The fourth best player in the Men's draw was Truls.

o  These great juniors guarantee an exciting and fabulous future.

Upward!
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Originally posted by DonnOlsen DonnOlsen wrote:

Hi,

Some final thoughts:

o  An excellent tournament; tip of the hat to the organizers and all involved.

o  The Chinese are the best in the world; the Japanese are the second best in the world; hence the harmonic results.

o  In the finals, Hirano and Harimoto were great.

o  The seedings seem always to be a problematic/challenging item.  Wang was the 6th seed.

o  The third best player in the Women's draw was Bruna.

o  The third best player in the Men's draw was Lin.

o  The fourth best player in the Men's draw was Truls.

o  These great juniors guarantee an exciting and fabulous future.

Upward!
Opinions are like assholes. In this tournament, Wang was clearly the best player followed by Harimoto and Kanak.  The fact is that during world team tournament, besides beating the world #7, Kanak also beat another player ranked in top 50, and 3 other players ranked between 50 and 75. My opinion is that Lin, Truls, and Kanak are about at the same level and on any given day they anyone among the three can beat the other two. Also when Chuqin Wang gets hot, he is unstoppable and is capable of beating Harimoto or any other junior at 11-1 or so.
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Originally posted by DonnOlsen DonnOlsen wrote:

Hi,

Some final thoughts:


The tournament isn't over - Team USA can still win gold Big smile
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Maybe this bad loss will quiet down HT














The expression of HT looking at his coach after losing 11   1 is so funny

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I have a theory. Igor is actually anti Russian. That is why he is saying all these stupid things to arouse sentiments against them.

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Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Originally posted by DonnOlsen DonnOlsen wrote:

Hi,

Some final thoughts:


The tournament isn't over - Team USA can still win gold Big smile

A mountain of hostility on the blog now.  Not worth further participation.
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Is it just me or Wang Chuqin stroke structure looks awfully like an upgraded Hao Shuai.... Btw super well deserved win by Chuqin who put on some relentless pressure, excellent placements and a tight table game to win.

Harimoto seems to be quite awkward playing lefties compared to his rock solid game against right handed players... He made like 100 mistakes with his usually deadly chiquita!
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Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Is it just me or Wang Chuqin stroke structure looks awfully like an upgraded Hao Shuai.... Btw super well deserved win by Chuqin who put on some relentless pressure, excellent placements and a tight table game to win.

Harimoto seems to be quite awkward playing lefties compared to his rock solid game against right handed players... He made like 100 mistakes with his usually deadly chiquita!


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Lefty players easier exploit Harimoto FH side(his serve return with chiquita)
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Originally posted by Roni Roni wrote:

Lefty players easier exploit Harimoto FH side(his serve return with chiquita)


I think HT is weak against players with strong BH like pitchford calderano liang jk

Edited by mykonos96 - 10/11/2018 at 2:01am
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After losing in the bronze medal match to Kanak Jha:

https://tw.news.yahoo.com/%E9%9D%92%E5%A5%A7%E6%A1%8C%E7%90%83%E7%94%B7%E5%96%AE%E9%8A%85%E7%89%8C%E6%88%B0%E5%90%9E%E6%95%97-%E6%9E%97%E6%98%80%E5%84%92-%E5%BF%83%E7%90%86%E5%BE%85%E5%BC%B7%E5%8C%96-225158928.html
Quote 林昀儒表示,對手的速度其實不快,但球都有打到位置,比賽中段開始也打得有點急,單打賽事告一段落,沒能為中華代表團添牌,林昀儒表示,「問題在自己身上,心理上面還需要再強化」。

LYJ stated that the opponent's speed was actually not fast, but his shots were placed well and that he lost his cool half way through. "The problem is on me. My mental toughness still needs to be strengthened" LYJ said.



For the match against Harimoto:

https://udn.com/news/story/7005/3415168
Quote 今天首局林昀儒開賽積極搶分,以11比6拿下,第2、3局都有機會拿下,但關鍵時刻失誤多。黃昶鈞表示,今天第一局打得果斷,但張本智和第2局開始壓制林昀儒的側身,兩人也在接發球上不斷想要變化,造成不少失誤。

LYJ's coach Huang Chang-chun said Lin played very decisively in game 1, and that he could've taken game 2 and 3, but Harimoto started to suppress his step-around. Both players kept looking for chances on receive and that led to many errors.

Quote 林昀儒表示,今天開局戰術執行奏效,但2局沒有延續,也打得比較保守,不然其實都有機會拿下來,後半段想辦法把節奏放慢,「他反手速度還是比我好,想要贏他,就需要把戰術執行得非常好」。

LYJ stated his tactics worked well in game 1, but he couldn't extend it in game 2 and started to play safe. Otherwise, he could've taken it. He kept trying to slow it down in the latter half, stating "his BH speed is still faster than mine, and I have to carry out the tactics really well if I were to win."

Quote 張本智和拿勝晉級金牌戰,他稱讚林昀儒表現很好,「我差點輸掉這場比賽,此次目標就是金牌」,也提到今天拿下比賽勝利的關鍵,是關鍵時失誤比對手少。

OTHO, Harimoto praised LYJ for his performance, saying "I almost lost that match. My goal is the gold medal" and that less errors at crucial moments was key to his win today.

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Originally posted by PythonMonty PythonMonty wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by PythonMonty PythonMonty wrote:

Good tournament for Jha. Today will look ugly for him, but he was just overseeded because of his inflated world ranking. I think the 8 seed would have been about right for him, after Harimoto, Wang/Lin, Moregard/Sgouropoulos, Pletea/Sidorenko.


He has beaten most of the Europeans including Pletea so I don't agree. The idea his ranking is inflated despite his making the semis is weird.

His world ranking is inflated because it's inflated. As the best American player, he gets participation points for playing events for which he wouldn't have qualified on an individual basis. But you know this. He was the 2 seed in this tournament because of his world ranking. Nobody thought he was really the second best player in the draw. You could make a case for him as high as the 4 seed, although I'd favor any of Moregard, Sgouropoulos, Pletea or Sidorenko over him if they were playing today. I thought they all looked better than he did in this tournament. If he'd had Sidorenko's draw he would have had the same results.

I guess the results spoke for themselves.  
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Watched bronze and gold medals matches live yesterday.
But can not find the link to watch the "Replay".

Does anybody know the link to watch the "Replay" of yesterday's matches?


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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Watched bronze and gold medals matches live yesterday.
But can not find the link to watch the "Replay".

Does anybody know the link to watch the "Replay" of yesterday's matches?



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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by PythonMonty PythonMonty wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by PythonMonty PythonMonty wrote:

Good tournament for Jha. Today will look ugly for him, but he was just overseeded because of his inflated world ranking. I think the 8 seed would have been about right for him, after Harimoto, Wang/Lin, Moregard/Sgouropoulos, Pletea/Sidorenko.


He has beaten most of the Europeans including Pletea so I don't agree. The idea his ranking is inflated despite his making the semis is weird.


His world ranking is inflated because it's inflated. As the best American player, he gets participation points for playing events for which he wouldn't have qualified on an individual basis. But you know this. He was the 2 seed in this tournament because of his world ranking. Nobody thought he was really the second best player in the draw. You could make a case for him as high as the 4 seed, although I'd favor any of Moregard, Sgouropoulos, Pletea or Sidorenko over him if they were playing today. I thought they all looked better than he did in this tournament. If he'd had Sidorenko's draw he would have had the same results.


I guess the results spoke for themselves.  


Khanak will have the chance to prove that very soon in a month in the junior worlds. Any link to full final match?

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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by PythonMonty PythonMonty wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by PythonMonty PythonMonty wrote:

Good tournament for Jha. Today will look ugly for him, but he was just overseeded because of his inflated world ranking. I think the 8 seed would have been about right for him, after Harimoto, Wang/Lin, Moregard/Sgouropoulos, Pletea/Sidorenko.


He has beaten most of the Europeans including Pletea so I don't agree. The idea his ranking is inflated despite his making the semis is weird.


His world ranking is inflated because it's inflated. As the best American player, he gets participation points for playing events for which he wouldn't have qualified on an individual basis. But you know this. He was the 2 seed in this tournament because of his world ranking. Nobody thought he was really the second best player in the draw. You could make a case for him as high as the 4 seed, although I'd favor any of Moregard, Sgouropoulos, Pletea or Sidorenko over him if they were playing today. I thought they all looked better than he did in this tournament. If he'd had Sidorenko's draw he would have had the same results.


I guess the results spoke for themselves.  


Truls, Sidorenko vs WCQ close matches. WCQ Vs Jha not close.

You cannot draw conclusions from small numbers of matches in which Jha got the favourable draw. He is every bit the match of the European talents but he is not better than them just because his seeding and WR says so. He has the benefit of being his national champion whereas the European youths would struggle to get to the final or maybe even semi finals of their nationals. I have no doubt that he deserves the bronze after a great win vs Lin but that doesn't make him the 3rd best player there, or as second seed the second best player there as you imply, especially when the stand out player was only the 6th seed.

Almost anyone from a small table tennis country has an inflated ranking, until the very top level. Thats the nature of it. The 150th best French player is easily a match if not outright favourite over guys ranked 600 in the world. This would be even more obvious when considering the Chinese players. The 50th best Chinese player is almost certainly world top 100 level.

Jha is ranked maybe 100 or so and he can compete with others at that level and a bit higher. Some of the European players are ranked like 300 and are at the exact same level as Truls but don't get to play many senior events yet.

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WCQ never had a close match in this tournament. Only closER matches. The only conclusion I can draw is either he's underrated or everyone else is overrated LMAO

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Truls, Sidorenko vs WCQ close matches. WCQ Vs Jha not close.

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So you say you can't draw conclusion from small number of matches and proceed to do it yourself in regards to Kanak's one match against Chuqin Wang.  Kanak is ranked 70 or so in the world and that's where he should be considering at World Team championship he beat #7 ranked player in the world, along with players ranked in the 40's, 50's 60's and 70's. There is enough sample to gage his ranking. Sometimes two people do not match well together. I am about 2000 rated in USA and I consistently beat someone who is 2100 at my club, but on the average he beats more players rated higher than me. Kanak short game and ball placement is one of his strength and Wang easily overcame that with his strong flicks and movement around the table. Wang also kept away from Kanak's backhand and easily overpowered him in forehand to forehand rallies.  Having a strong attack on short game like Wang's(flicks etc) along with movement around the table is something only a few players in the world have, so not everyone can execute this strategy 

Kanak needs to get more power in his forehand stroke to move ahead...combination of a little more body turn, a wider radius on swing (which means better movement) and exploding into the ball more with his legs. However, he may lose other facets of his game if he just concentrates on that, so its a balancing act.
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On a serious note, I agree with this. Jha rarely if ever played any top Chinese players, but is a lot more used to the European style as he plays there. If he gets more exposure to the Chinese he can surely get close in a few games of a match, and might take one of them like Truls etc. were able to do.

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So you say you can't draw conclusion from small number of matches and proceed to do it yourself in regards to Kanak's one match against Chuqin Wang.  Kanak is ranked 70 or so in the world and that's where he should be considering at World Team championship he beat #7 ranked player in the world, along with players ranked in the 40's, 50's 60's and 70's. There is enough sample to gage his ranking. Sometimes two people do not match well together. I am about 2000 rated in USA and I consistently beat someone who is 2100 at my club, but on the average he beats more players rated higher than me. Kanak short game and ball placement is one of his strength and Wang easily overcame that with his strong flicks and movement around the table. Wang also kept away from Kanak's backhand and easily overpowered him in forehand to forehand rallies.  Having a strong attack on short game like Wang's(flicks etc) along with movement around the table is something only a few players in the world have, so not everyone can execute this strategy 

Kanak needs to get more power in his forehand stroke to move ahead...combination of a little more body turn, a wider radius on swing (which means better movement) and exploding into the ball more with his legs. However, he may lose other facets of his game if he just concentrates on that, so its a balancing act.
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

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Good tournament for Jha. Today will look ugly for him, but he was just overseeded because of his inflated world ranking. I think the 8 seed would have been about right for him, after Harimoto, Wang/Lin, Moregard/Sgouropoulos, Pletea/Sidorenko.


He has beaten most of the Europeans including Pletea so I don't agree. The idea his ranking is inflated despite his making the semis is weird.

His world ranking is inflated because it's inflated. As the best American player, he gets participation points for playing events for which he wouldn't have qualified on an individual basis. But you know this. He was the 2 seed in this tournament because of his world ranking. Nobody thought he was really the second best player in the draw. You could make a case for him as high as the 4 seed, although I'd favor any of Moregard, Sgouropoulos, Pletea or Sidorenko over him if they were playing today. I thought they all looked better than he did in this tournament. If he'd had Sidorenko's draw he would have had the same results.

I guess the results spoke for themselves.  

No question. Jha had the easiest path to the semifinals where he got outclassed by Wang. Just one match but pretty ugly especially compared to competitive matches like Wang-Moregard and Wang-Sidorenko. Jha showed his great mental toughness by coming back to play his best match for the bronze medal. Credit where credit is due but I'm still taking Lin over Jha the next time they play. And I'd still seed him behind Moregard and Sgouropoulos, but ahead of Pletea and Sidorenko. I think he's scheduled to play Pletea in the groups on Saturday so should be interesting.
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The expression of HT looking at his coach after losing 11   1 is so funny[/QUOTE]

I was really looking to enjoy that expression.  Not as enjoyable as I had hoped.
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I still think Moregard will be a more serious threat to CNT top players if he somehow can find a chance to play in Chinese Super League for a couple of years.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote fatt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/11/2018 at 11:38am
Somebody earlier in the thread noticed the non existence of a Chiquita in Truls’ game. I agree that one cannot make it to the top without it. He must add it to his arsenal to cancel 3rd ball attacks out. He won’t be world or Olympic champ without it. No Chiquita = too many unblockable 3rd ball kills!

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While record speaks for itself alright, Jha beat Lin is still a big surprise to me as well as to many others.
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