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    Posted: 10/08/2018 at 2:08pm
I think soulspin made for donic the 89 series.
also nexy made for tibhar the kim jung hoon.
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Butterfly made fan zhendongs blade:)
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ITC worked for the now defunct Adidas TT short endeavor but also for other brands I believe?
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Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

I think soulspin made for donic the 89 series.
also nexy made for tibhar the kim jung hoon.
other examples?


Nexy also designed and produced the Tibhar Akkad. The Nexy Arche, as some already know, is based on the KJH; handle is slightly different and the fh side is lati. The Akkad again is a pumped up version of the Arche with lati on fh and bh plus a slightly thicker core ply...
Soulspin on the other hand is also responsible for many if not all of the Andro Ligna blades as well as the Nittaku "Meister" series. That's just off the top of my hat...

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it seemed to me that these 89 series were higher quality than general donic blades.
I might be wrong because I never owned one.

As for nexy, I think they also did the inca for tibhar?
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Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

it seemed to me that these 89 series were higher quality than general donic blades.
I might be wrong because I never owned one.

As for nexy, I think they also did the inca for tibhar?


Yes, Nexy also did the Inca. Forgot about that one. Soulspin blades are generally of high quality and "better" (in terms of wood quality and craftsmanship) than regular Donic or Andro blades.
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Yasaka (shakehand) blades, are made in Tran√•s, Sweden at a shop called "Woodhouse AB"(where another very famous Swedish blade manufacturer formerly produced their bladesWink).  This Woodhouse AB makes many of the best selling Donic blades, most Avalox well-loved blades, select Nittaku, JOOLA & Cornilleau blades, and a host of others it appears. 
      The following blades are just a few of the best sellers made there: 
- Donic: Dicon, Appelgren Allplay, Persson PowerPlay/Allround, Waldner Limited, virtually all of the Senso blades. Most blades named after their sponsored players.  Basically, all Donic blades NOT named "World Champion-89", "Crest","Burn", "Epox", "Dotec", or "Exclusive/Legend" series. 
- Nittaku: Runlox, Lialox, Bizelox, Bloodwood, Wang Liqin ANV-5, Wang Nan ANV-5 & possibly more.
- JOOLA: Black Rose, Viking, Sting, Torre ALL+, Ticker ALL, (probably others)  
- Avalox: P500, P700, P900, BT550, BT555, BT777, Ruiba Bloodwood Carbon
- Yasaka: all of the 'Ma Lin' blades, all of the 'Extra' blades, all of the 'Sweden Line' blades (Classic, Extra, Guardian, Defensive & EK Carbon), the Goiabao-5 and Ebony Carbon just to name a few.


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I think, Soulspin produced a lot of blades for different brands
  • the WC89 series for Donic (Appelgren, Waldner and Persson)
  • the Ligna series for Andro (7 or more blades)
  • the Meister series for Nittaku (Holz Sieben, Basaltec Inner and Outer)
  • the S-series for Nittaku (S-5, S-7, S-CZ)
  • the Dynatec for Gewo (maybe also K√∂nigsklasse F√ľnf and K√∂nigsklasse Karbon Sieben)
Ney designed (but not produced) some blades for Tibhar
  • Inca
  • Akkad
  • Kim Jung Hoon
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There were a couple of gimmick BTY blades from a while back that had carbon Rod cores or something.
I'm pretty sure those were designed in a Chinese factory. Possibly LKT factory since they had a line of some "adjustable handle" "WRB" type blades as well.
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Kinda seemed like YinHe produced some blades for Juic like Iseki Carbon and Stellan Bengtsson
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Originally posted by Magic_M Magic_M wrote:

I think, Soulspin produced a lot of blades for different brands
  • the WC89 series for Donic (Appelgren, Waldner and Persson)
  • the Ligna series for Andro (7 or more blades)
  • the Meister series for Nittaku (Holz Sieben, Basaltec Inner and Outer)
  • the S-series for Nittaku (S-5, S-7, S-CZ)
  • the Dynatec for Gewo (maybe also K√∂nigsklasse F√ľnf and K√∂nigsklasse Karbon Sieben)
Ney designed (but not produced) some blades for Tibhar
  • Inca
  • Akkad
  • Kim Jung Hoon

I think for donic soulspin also made the "ovtcharov feat".
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Originally posted by HuLimei HuLimei wrote:

There were a couple of gimmick BTY blades from a while back that had carbon Rod cores or something.
I'm pretty sure those were designed in a Chinese factory. Possibly LKT factory since they had a line of some "adjustable handle" "WRB" type blades as well.

you mean the vsg twist blades.
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Nope, those were Sunflex and had sister models in that brand.

Palio made the dotec sonic I think.

I can't even tell you all I know
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Woodhouse also made Gatien Series from Cornilleau and some Joola Made in Sweden (Sting, Torre, Carbon Sweden, Viking, Black Rose..).
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Originally posted by AMonteiro AMonteiro wrote:

Woodhouse also made Gatien Series from Cornilleau and some Joola Made in Sweden (Sting, Torre, Carbon Sweden, Viking, Black Rose..).

That's right.  I had suspected those Cornilleau blades and forgotten about the Joola ones (I even have a couple of them!).  What about the TSP Swat series and the Euro line?  I had suspected those as well, judging by the lenses and the lay-up in their plies.

Will update my list for now.  Thanks for the reminder.
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Woodhouse is a bit different because it is not a brand.
It's a factory.
Soulspin and Nexy have their own products.

Maybe Sunflex would also be an example.
Legend says they made some blades for Butterfly, and they have their own blades as well.
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Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

Woodhouse is a bit different because it is not a brand.
It's a factory.
Soulspin and Nexy have their own products.

Maybe Sunflex would also be an example.
Legend says they made some blades for Butterfly, and they have their own blades as well.

Except for the fact that Yasaka started producing blades in Tranås, Sweden in 1992 (the year Stiga broke from there). I believe they probably named their division that produces for other companies 'Woodhouse AB'. The lower prices of Yasaka's blades as compared to other companies, confirms this to me.

Check-out Yasaka's history timeline around 1992 (srry, can't embed from iPhone. Will edit later)--

https://www.yasaka.se/all-about-yasaka/yasaka-the-story/

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Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

you mean the vsg twist blades.
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Originally posted by king_pong king_pong wrote:

Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

Woodhouse is a bit different because it is not a brand.
It's a factory.
Soulspin and Nexy have their own products.

Maybe Sunflex would also be an example.
Legend says they made some blades for Butterfly, and they have their own blades as well.

Except for the fact that Yasaka started producing blades in Tranås, Sweden in 1992 (the year Stiga broke from there). I believe they probably named their division that produces for other companies 'Woodhouse AB'. The lower prices of Yasaka's blades as compared to other companies, confirms this to me.

- Check-out Yasaka's history timeline around 1992 (srry, can't embed from iPhone. Will edit later)--

https://www.yasaka.se/all-about-yasaka/yasaka-the-story/

To me it's still different until I see a "Woodhouse xxx" blade.

If you include the factories, all brands except maybe Butterfly would be on this list.
They all make their blades in external factories.


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Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

Originally posted by king_pong king_pong wrote:

Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

Woodhouse is a bit different because it is not a brand.
It's a factory.
Soulspin and Nexy have their own products.

Maybe Sunflex would also be an example.
Legend says they made some blades for Butterfly, and they have their own blades as well.
 
Except for the fact that Yasaka started producing blades in Tran√•s, Sweden in 1992 (the year Stiga broke from there). I believe they probably named their division that produces for other companies 'Woodhouse AB'. The lower prices of Yasaka's blades as compared to other companies, confirms this to me.

     Check-out Yasaka's history timeline around 1992 (srry, can't embed from iPhone. Will edit later)--

https://www.yasaka.se/all-about-yasaka/yasaka-the-story/

To me it's still different until I see a "Woodhouse xxx" blade.

If you include the factories, all brands except maybe Butterfly would be on this list.
They all make their blades in external factories.

      Well, does a Stiga Clipper count? Or a Stiga Offensive? Or how about the Allround Classic?  That is the factory that produced those blades.  They all were made and developed there in Tran√•s.  Anyway, I get that we're splitting hairs now, BUT judging by former forum member, Kennie's avatar, signature, and his long litany of posts nearly all favorable towards Yasaka products, it leads me to believe that Woodhouse is part & parcel of Yasaka (Kennie's father, for those who didn't know, is/was president or director of Woodhouse AB).  Too bad he is not active on here any longer.  I would be curious to ask him about the nature of their close relationship.


      then there's this -- 

     Regarding Nexy, from what I've read/heard in some forum, they are a blade designer, whose blades are made by some Chinese manufacturer - Yinhe, Sunflex or Sanwei, etc.


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Anyone wanting to really know, PM emihet, he knows practically every blade maker around.

As for the Nexy production, Oscar Moon designs the blades for his Nexy brand and some for Tibhar… exactly where the production line is at, I don't really know, have my own ideas, but do not know for sure. Oscar correctly does not tell anyone exactly where, how, and why he does stuff, it is proper business practice.
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Sunflex made the vsg series for butterfly. I think it also makes blades for other brands.
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Originally posted by BH-Man BH-Man wrote:

Anyone wanting to really know, PM emihet, he knows practically every blade maker around.

As for the Nexy production, Oscar Moon designs the blades for his Nexy brand and some for Tibhar… exactly where the production line is at, I don't really know, have my own ideas, but do not know for sure. Oscar correctly does not tell anyone exactly where, how, and why he does stuff, it is proper business practice.

I think it's an open secret really.  I mean, some Nexy blades have the manufacturer listed right on the page on tak9.com, although I'm sure there's a more interesting inside story going on behind the scenes too.
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